Not according, wrongly, to some.
The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
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The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
Last season we were a mid-table team that overachieved and nearly made the playoffs. This season we are a mid-table team that has underachieved and had a terrible run of injuries. I think we will revert to being a mid-table side if we stay up this season. Premier League is a very long way away indeed.
Can you imagine the fuss if Sheffield United miss out on autos and then lose in the Play Offs... 2 point deduction...
I would think out of 22 teams vying for 4 playoff slots is rather difficult to accomplish.
I think the available PL parachute money should be divided equally (or even gradually increased in amount from 24th to 6th positioned teams in the Championship table) at the end of each Premier League season.
Such income distribution may possibly create a better level playing field for all clubs to aim for promotion the following season in the sense of cash available for team strengthening.
Same principle should be applied to lower leagues in the pyramid too.
Such income distribution may possibly create a better level playing field for all clubs to aim for promotion the following season in the sense of cash available for team strengthening.
Same principle should be applied to lower leagues in the pyramid too.
Remember when I posted this back in April, anyone think any differently now? Can we do it quicker than you originally anticipated?
If not this year I still think it will be a while. Depends if Acun can afford to go again, and if so when.
Maybe 2-3 years? My expectations this season have been massively surpassed, but my updated expectation is currently that we’ll probably reach the playoffs and lose there. You see time and again the teams that do so struggling the next season so for me we consolidate next year, then make a real go of it the next.
All academic if we get promoted this season, which I appreciate some people really don’t want but I still hope for and would be blown away by.
All academic if we get promoted this season, which I appreciate some people really don’t want but I still hope for and would be blown away by.
I don't think there will be anyone who doesn't want to get promoted, but there are some of us who are not enthused by the ****-show that is the EPL.
Some posters on here get excited about EPL teams playing each other and "Ooh, look at Tottenham" sort of things. I just couldn't give a **** and know very few of the players that get mentioned excitedly in some threads.
EPL fanboys sat in the home stands, going to away matches becomes harder, and there are half and half scarfs. There is VAR also which will presumably will be as biased against us, just as the refs were last time.
But ...
It helps breeds a new generation of supporters. Kids wear City shirts on the streets and in schools. Hull gets positive publicity world-wide. The money, if handled correctly coild transform our facilities and future prospects.
I don't like anything about the EPL but it would be crazy to not want to get there.
Id be happy to play the same team next season (in theory i know we have many loans)if we get promoted and just pocket the cash to be spent on the clubs infrastructure
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It was great being at the 'top table' of English football, seeing and playing against the best, Hull City were no longer the subject of a a piss-taking quiz question i.e. ''which club blah blah'' - we've done it, three times; each time the Pl has become more stilted towards the top sides, the fans of top sides have become more touristy and ****ish, add to that the horrible bastard that is VAR and now, for me, the PL is dire, awful, toxic, I loathe it.
The journey to the top of the PL (albeit only after two matches) was wonderful, what a memory. If we do go up via Play Offs, I'm with TigerMarv - spend nothing and trouser the money & parachute payments to sort out our infrastructure & debt. If we don't go up? I won't shed a tear.
The journey to the top of the PL (albeit only after two matches) was wonderful, what a memory. If we do go up via Play Offs, I'm with TigerMarv - spend nothing and trouser the money & parachute payments to sort out our infrastructure & debt. If we don't go up? I won't shed a tear.
My main reason for wanting to get promoted is the money. That sounds a bit miserable but the money you get from promotion is huge. I would like for some of that money to go towards the academy and a new training ground but I think Acun would do what Forest did and go on a spending spree. That might work but it’s risky. If Forest went down after one season after spending that much, I think they would’ve run into some trouble.
Part of me would be very worried if we go up
I think that’s fair. It is undoubtedly a double edged sword - if as a point of principle the question was “Do you want us to be champions, get worldwide publicity to entice new fans in and be given bagfuls of cash to spend on improving the team, the club and its facilities?” then I doubt any of us could reasonably say no, but as others have rightly pointed out the reality isn’t quite that simple is it?
So if the question was “Do you want to see us lose most weeks, be the victim of questionable decisions in favour of some really quite ****ty cheating teams, wait 2 or 3 minutes to know whether you can celebrate a goal and even then feel self-conscious about it because despite being in a stand that’s meant to be for home fans you’re surrounded by strangers who have local accents but seem more excited about seeing Liverpool than cheering our lads on?” then that’s maybe a different answer.
The reality is you get some of both I guess, like it or not.
Chances are Acun will sell up in that first season, I seem to remember him saying something along those lines in the early days after he bought City. So God knows what any new owner's approach would be.
I know this is a "when" rather than "do you want" question, but I think we need it for the money and Acun's whole business model. Could well be trouble ahead if we don't do it soon.
Luton bought decent Championship players and went straight back down (and down again). Ipswich bought the best of the Championship and also went straight back down. Forest bought about 30 players in one season and stayed up.
I think Sunderland’s recruitment of young, quality players with one marquee signing in Xhaxa was the right way to go for them. Their owner is a billionaire though.
If we did go up, I’d want recruitment to be modest and profitable in the future. We might go straight back down but we’d be a better Championship club for it, in my opinion. Probably not Acun’s style though.
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We did it in our first season in the Premier League under Bruce. We got Huddlestone, Livermore, McGregor and Figueroa and then added to it with players like Jelavic and Long in January to help keep us up. The core of the squad that played in the Premier League for those two seasons (Davies, Greegsy, Aluko, Thudd, Livermore, Dawson etc) stayed with us and helped us get back up.
If we went up, we'd need a few additions, but like Sunderland I wouldn't want to see a tonne of new players flooding us.