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A grandmother celebrating her children blowing themsevles up and can't wait for her grandkids to do the same.

Yeh I'd say it's pretty sick to think that way

They are a religious people Sucksta, and the Grandmother's 'coping mechanism' is her faith ... a faith that designates her kids dying as they did as 'martyrs' for whom the next life will be much better than the one cut short ... don't necessarily make her a terrorist sympathiser (though you couldn't blame her if she was after such a loss) ... but certainly a woman mourning the loss of family ...
 
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It is possible she was the local mentalist before the bombs started dropping. Every area has one.
 
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They are a religious people Sucksta, and the Grandmother's 'coping mechanism' is her faith ... a faith that designates her kids dying as they did as 'martyrs' for whom the next life will be much better than the one cut short ... don't necessarily make her a terrorist sympathiser (though you couldn't blame her if she was after such a loss) ... but certainly a woman mourning the loss of family ...

Don't disagree with your comments, but sometimes I feel their religion is overstated, as though it is greater than another - but it's not, some faith's show it more openly and some faiths are more discreet, as for martyrs, so were the Japanese pilots during WW2 and America ended up dropping the atomic bomb on them, not just once, but twice. I always felt people justified it as a way to end the Japanese resilience, imagine if people felt that same way about Palestinians, afterall the Americans killed over 200,000 innocent civilians in those two drops, and maimed thousands of others and they weren't terrorists either.
 
Don't disagree with your comments, but sometimes I feel their religion is overstated, as though it is greater than another - but it's not, some faith's show it more openly and some faiths are more discreet, as for martyrs, so were the Japanese pilots during WW2 and America ended up dropping the atomic bomb on them, not just once, but twice. I always felt people justified it as a way to end the Japanese resilience, imagine if people felt that same way about Palestinians, afterall the Americans killed over 200,000 innocent civilians in those two drops, and maimed thousands of others and they weren't terrorists either.

And Germany was bombed into the Stone Age by the UK and USA and we can only imagine what Russia did to Eastern Germany as they gained revenge for what Germany did to Western Russia
 
Don't disagree with your comments, but sometimes I feel their religion is overstated, as though it is greater than another - but it's not, some faith's show it more openly and some faiths are more discreet, as for martyrs, so were the Japanese pilots during WW2 and America ended up dropping the atomic bomb on them, not just once, but twice. I always felt people justified it as a way to end the Japanese resilience, imagine if people felt that same way about Palestinians, afterall the Americans killed over 200,000 innocent civilians in those two drops, and maimed thousands of others and they weren't terrorists either.

Mate, the Yanks have incredible 'form' on the massacre of non-combatants in the means to justify an end arena ... manifest destiny and all that ... Sand Creek, the Washita, Wounded Knee, Mi Lai, Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...
 
And Germany was bombed into the Stone Age by the UK and USA and we can only imagine what Russia did to Eastern Germany as they gained revenge for what Germany did to Western Russia

I use to be fascinated by the Berlin wall, just from a human psychological view, and the attempts to cross it. Still remember the day it came down. I saw three slabs of it on display in Koblenz down by the Rhine - where the Rhine meets the Danube if I've got my geography correct. I was reading up on the Brandenburg Gate a month or so back, lot's of pictures to help me lol, and how it's changed over the years.
 
Mate, the Yanks have incredible 'form' on the massacre of non-combatants in the means to justify an end arena ... manifest destiny and all that ... Sand Creek, the Washita, Wounded Knee, Mi Lai, Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...

Yup, one of those Japanese Cities it wasn't even meant to be dropped on (Nagasaki I think, if that was the second hit). But the crew couldn't take their payload back, so dropped it on a City that was originally on the list before it was removed from the list, for reasons I've forgotten.
 
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Yup, one of those Japanese Cities it wasn't even meant to be dropped on (Nagasaki I think, if that was the second hit). But the crew couldn't take their payload back, so dropped it on a City that was originally on the list before it was removed from the list, for reasons I've forgotten.

I think that both missions had a secondary target if for any reason the first target was unavailable
 
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I use to be fascinated by the Berlin wall, just from a human psychological view, and the attempts to cross it. Still remember the day it came down. I saw three slabs of it on display in Koblenz down by the Rhine - where the Rhine meets the Danube if I've got my geography correct. I was reading up on the Brandenburg Gate a month or so back, lot's of pictures to help me lol, and how it's changed over the years.

Berlin is a real eye opener, a fascinating city - went there on a business course back around 2003 - walked round the City with a couple of other Brits on the course ... Brandenberg Gate, Checkpoint Charlie, remnants of the wall, Hitler's Bunker the Reichstag etc ... and also went up the radio tower in what was East Berlin that was built to get a good view of what was going on in the West ... but one of the most amazing sites (if still there) was a bombed out church on Orangebloom Strasse (SP) which had been left as it was after the bombing but turned into a bar / nightclub... also bang in the red light district ... which was also a bit of an 'eye opener' ... <laugh>
 
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Mate, the Yanks have incredible 'form' on the massacre of non-combatants in the means to justify an end arena ... manifest destiny and all that ... Sand Creek, the Washita, Wounded Knee, Mi Lai, Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...

I don't have a lot of love for the Yanks, much as I don't have much love for us and the EU at times.

Think when I grew up everything was always anti Russia, or USSR as it was then, or anti Chinese, but as you grow up the world is not quite how people would like you to believe. I remember having a German friend in my infant to junior school days, my old man wasn't impressed <laugh>

I think I just hate a lot of the rhetoric, narratives we get fed about other countries, and I began to relise a ****ing lot of people hate us, although hate Americans more. And you have to ask why is that, I just come to the conclusion we get involved into much **** that don't concern us.

We are a poxy little island but at times we think we are something more superior, and one day I just feel that thinking is going to cost us a slap. It still wouldn't surprise me if Putin tried to have one last pop at us, because he is so pissed with the UK. I've given him the co-ordinates for Cornwall. :bandit:
 
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Berlin is a real eye opener, a fascinating city - went there on a business course back around 2003 - walked round the City with a couple of other Brits on the course ... Brandenberg Gate, Checkpoint Charlie, remnants of the wall, Hitler's Bunker the Reichstag etc ... and also went up the radio tower in what was East Berlin that was built to get a good view of what was going on in the West ... but one of the most amazing sites (if still there) was a bombed out church on Orangebloom Strasse (SP) which had been left as it was after the bombing but turned into a bar / nightclub... also bang in the red light district ... which was also a bit of an 'eye opener' ... <laugh>

Yeah I wouldn't mind another trip back to Germany. In the summer next time though, it was freezing cold and eventually snowing when I last went.
 
I don't have a lot of love for the Yanks, much as I don't have much love for us and the EU at times.

Think when I grew up everything was always anti Russia, or USSR as it was then, or anti Chinese, but as you grow up the world is not quite how people would like you to believe. I remember having a German friend in my infant to junior school days, my old man wasn't impressed <laugh>

I think I just hate a lot of the rhetoric, narratives we get fed about other countries, and I began to relise a ****ing lot of people hate us, although hate Americans more. And you have to ask why is that, I just come to the conclusion we get involved into much **** that don't concern us.

We are a poxy little island but at times we think we are something more superior, and one day I just feel that thinking is going to cost us a slap. It still wouldn't surprise me if Putin tried to have one last pop at us, because he is so pissed with the UK. I've given him the co-ordinates for Cornwall. :bandit:

Can you narrow the focus to a newly tiled shower room? ... you know it makes sense ...
 
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I don't have a lot of love for the Yanks, much as I don't have much love for us and the EU at times.

Think when I grew up everything was always anti Russia, or USSR as it was then, or anti Chinese, but as you grow up the world is not quite how people would like you to believe. I remember having a German friend in my infant to junior school days, my old man wasn't impressed <laugh>

I think I just hate a lot of the rhetoric, narratives we get fed about other countries, and I began to relise a ****ing lot of people hate us, although hate Americans more. And you have to ask why is that, I just come to the conclusion we get involved into much **** that don't concern us.

We are a poxy little island but at times we think we are something more superior, and one day I just feel that thinking is going to cost us a slap. It still wouldn't surprise me if Putin tried to have one last pop at us, because he is so pissed with the UK. I've given him the co-ordinates for Cornwall. :bandit:

Cornwall is where the people from Gaza will be rehoused
 
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Yeah I wouldn't mind another trip back to Germany. In the summer next time though, it was freezing cold and eventually snowing when I last went.

I went in October, so similar ... but you've given me a 'bang on the ear' ... as The Waterboys would say ... I'd neglected to mention the street food... the fookin sausages were awesome ... currywurst on a bitterly cold night after several beers is some gastronomic experience! <laugh>
 
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And Germany was bombed into the Stone Age by the UK and USA and we can only imagine what Russia did to Eastern Germany as they gained revenge for what Germany did to Western Russia


Horrible revenge bombing against civilians. Britain knew it wouldn't weaken the resolve of the people because when they bombed us it only strengthened the resolve of Britain (the same as it did for Germany).

Killing civilians doesn't normally win wars. It normally just strengthens their resolve and desire for revenge.
 
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Cornwall is where the people from Gaza will be rehoused


My roommate in university was Palestinian. The week before his wedding was amazing all the great food his family cooked . I might have to visit Cornwall for some gastro tourism.
 
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China wants to send peacekeepers to Ukraine... I guess they have as much right as Europe (they were nominally neutral in this while the EU was obviously backing Ukraine)... but as suspicious as I am that the US, Russia, and China want to join up to divide the world between themselves, makes me a little nervous. The sooner India, and the EU can grow to stronger military powers so power isn't controlled by the three dictator-states the better. Diversify power in the world.


I trust the Chinese more than the Yanks at this point tbh. Much better food too. **** learning Mandarin though…
 
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Can you narrow the focus to a newly tiled shower room? ... you know it makes sense ...

I live quite close to where a lot of transatlantic fibre optic cables land, they carry info from the NY stock exchange as well as Intel between GCHQ and US Intelligence. They would be the first to go if Russia decide to nuke the UK, so I'll be in the vaporisation zone.
 
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