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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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Dunno mate. Maybe to offer flexible in terms of late starts/late finishes for parents but doubt offering a 4-day week is mandatory.


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Would be worth enquiring. If you can do your hours in 4 days and it doesn't affect your employer from an operational point, they might agree to it.

Failing that, just tell them you have to look after your poorly mother on Mondays
 
Would be worth enquiring. If you can do your hours in 4 days and it doesn't affect your employer from an operational point, they might agree to it.

Failing that, just tell them you have to look after your poorly mother on Mondays

They probably would when I move role but it’s fine for now. Would be hard to train in the mornings if I started an hour earlier and Fridays in the summer are pretty dead anyway. This year so far has been a bit of a slog but it’ll die down after Easter.

The company has backed itself into a bit of a corner though. The gross wages are a bit below the market but the annual leave is very good, tax rates mean it’s not a big loss of money anyway and they have been good when it comes to being lax on office working and the workload is mostly not terrible.

But people, particularly the yoof who have never done 4-5 days in the office, are taking the piss so they’re cracking down more on it. Some people are home-based, a lot of people disappear for school runs which is fine but again makes it hard to plan **** when Sheila can’t do 9am and Janice can’t do 3.

I’ve got a few people reporting into me and I’ve always told them to just not take the piss. Be in on our ‘collaboration’ Tuesday and when you know the big bosses are in and otherwise do what you want. But some of them take the piss anyway. Don’t know they’re bloody born.
 
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They probably would when I move role but it’s fine for now. Would be hard to train in the mornings if I started an hour earlier and Fridays in the summer are pretty dead anyway. This year so far has been a bit of a slog but it’ll die down after Easter.

The company has backed itself into a bit of a corner though. The gross wages are a bit below the market but the annual leave is very good, tax rates mean it’s not a big loss of money anyway and they have been good when it comes to being lax on office working and the workload is mostly not terrible.

But people, particularly the yoof who have never done 4-5 days in the office, are taking the piss so they’re cracking down more on it. Some people are home-based, a lot of people disappear for school runs which is fine but again makes it hard to plan **** when Sheila can’t do 9am and Janice can’t do 3.

I’ve got a few people reporting into me and I’ve always told them to just not take the piss. Be in on our ‘collaboration’ Tuesday and when you know the big bosses are in and otherwise do what you want. But some of them take the piss anyway. Don’t know they’re bloody born.

The whole landscape has changed post covid too. Loads of folk simply didn't want to go back to the office and asked to work from home instead.

Depends what industry you're in, it can work if people work remotely. But it's still important to have regular contact with your colleagues and bosses etc otherwise Ethan from finance is just going to play FIFA for at least 10 hours of those 38 he should be working.
 
The whole landscape has changed post covid too. Loads of folk simply didn't want to go back to the office and asked to work from home instead.

Depends what industry you're in, it can work if people work remotely. But it's still important to have regular contact with your colleagues and bosses etc otherwise Ethan from finance is just going to play FIFA for at least 10 hours of those 38 he should be working.

Indeed. Once per week plus being in for specific meetings when others are is ample IMO but there’s a massive disconnect between the top of big businesses and the bottom where the extra £20 a week or whatever to commute an extra day is noticeable. The pay rises this year have been a bit weaker than I expected which again after tax makes minimal difference but just annoys people. All solved by people not taking the piss when the deal they have is pretty good. If the team gets the work done which my team does then I’m not arsed but the big dogs would have us in all week if they could which they can’t because they downsized the office and barely fit us all in when half the people are there.
 
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Indeed. Once per week plus being in for specific meetings when others are is ample IMO but there’s a massive disconnect between the top of big businesses and the bottom where the extra £20 a week or whatever to commute an extra day is noticeable. The pay rises this year have been a bit weaker than I expected which again after tax makes minimal difference but just annoys people. All solved by people not taking the piss when the deal they have is pretty good. If the team gets the work done which my team does then I’m not arsed but the big dogs would have us in all week if they could which they can’t because they downsized the office and barely fit us all in when half the people are there.[/QUOTE]

You all need to eat loads of burgers and kebabs, put on loads of weight and then claim that you can't all fit in the office at the same time.

You'll probs get your 4 day week then homes.
 
My company are pushing this, not sure why.

There are quite a lot of studies around that show how productivity on a Friday is well below the rest of the week

A lot of that is down to people just being done with the week and knowing the weekend is coming, so starting their power down by around 11am on a Friday

Personally I think productivity would go up if you had longer working hours 4 days per week and gave people a 3 day weekend

Not saying it would work for every business, but the Mon-Fri 9-5 is a pretty outdated model now that doesn't really fit the majority of working people's lives
 
One of the things with having flexible hours, there are so many positives to it.

If like me, you hate going out at a weekend when every other ****er is off, you get an additional day in the week to be able to do things without that hassle. I can see for mums and dads, it gives an extra day child minding your own siblings, two days if the parents have different days in the week. It fits around hospital and doctors appointments. If you are a person that struggles to get up in the morning, start later, work later. Nice working late when no bosses around. Maybe extra money also for working unsocial hours. One of the massive advantages is missing the morning rush hour and the same again going home. It gives businesses flexiblility in the hours people can cover - often open to further negotiation if there is a period of time that an employer might want covered and you may be obliging if they've helped you. Oh and not forgetting since covid, the extra gained from working from home as another adidtional factor.

I agree with Piskie that 9-5 is an outdated model in todays world.
 
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One of the things with having flexible hours, there are so many positives to it.

If like me, you hate going out at a weekend when every other ****er is off, you get an additional day in the week to be able to do things without that hassle. I can see for mums and dads, it gives an extra day child minding your own siblings, two days if the parents have different days in the week. It fits around hospital and doctors appointments. If you are a person that struggles to get up in the morning, start later, work later. Nice working late when no bosses around. Maybe extra money also for working unsocial hours. One of the massive advantages is missing the morning rush hour and the same again going home. It gives businesses flexiblility in the hours people can cover - often open to further negotiation if there is a period of time that an employer might want covered and you may be obliging if they've helped you. Oh and not forgetting since covid, the extra gained from working from home as another adidtional factor.

I agree with Piskie that 9-5 is an outdated model in todays world.

I have flexi office hours and basically it's "if things are getting done, we aren't arsed what hours you use on it" and for me that works great. If I start early and finish late on a tuesday, I know I might not even bother going in on the Friday.

However, if you have a job with lots of meetings (as one of my colleagues does) you essentially never have time to do anything as instead of working, you're stuck in calls discussing the possibility of working, then perhaps you have to stay in longer to actually do your job.

For me the number 1 plague for office work is meetings, meetings on meetings discussing future meetings. It's absolutely a waste of time.
 
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I have flexi office hours and basically it's "if things are getting done, we aren't arsed what hours you use on it" and for me that works great. If I start early and finish late on a tuesday, I know I might not even bother going in on the Friday.

However, if you have a job with lots of meetings (as one of my colleagues does) you essentially never have time to do anything as instead of working, you're stuck in calls discussing the possibility of working, then perhaps you have to stay in longer to actually do your job.

For me the number 1 plague for office work is meetings, meetings on meetings discussing future meetings. It's absolutely a waste of time.
Yeah definitely but at least for me now most of them are nowhere near as long as they’re scheduled so it might be 20 mins in an hour slot with 40 to get on with something else/do **** all. But the quantity of meetings is ludicrous.
 
Anyone heard the one about schools in England cancelling Easter celebratios in the spirit of inclusisvity.?


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Anyone heard the one about schools in England cancelling Easter celebratios in the spirit of inclusisvity.?

I hadn't heard 'schools' - all I saw mentioned was one school, 'Eastleigh' if I'm not mistaken, but doubt we will ever get to the truth of why that was, but I noticed certain newspapers were all over it. Whatever the reason it's down to the parents to challenge it.

If it's the same Eastleigh that I'm thinking of, it certainly don't compare to the arsehole that did this a couple of days ago... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg84eng198o
 
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I hadn't heard 'schools' - all I saw mentioned was one school, 'Eastleigh' if I'm not mistaken, but doubt we will ever get to the truth of why that was, but I noticed certain newspapers were all over it. Whatever the reason it's down to the parents to challenge it.

If it's the same Eastleigh that I'm thinking of, it certainly don't compare to the arsehole that did this a couple of days ago... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg84eng198o

Different Eastleigh.
 
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I hadn't heard 'schools' - all I saw mentioned was one school, 'Eastleigh' if I'm not mistaken, but doubt we will ever get to the truth of why that was, but I noticed certain newspapers were all over it. Whatever the reason it's down to the parents to challenge it.

If it's the same Eastleigh that I'm thinking of, it certainly don't compare to the arsehole that did this a couple of days ago... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg84eng198o

Probs revenge for cancelling Easter mate
 
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I hadn't heard 'schools' - all I saw mentioned was one school, 'Eastleigh' if I'm not mistaken, but doubt we will ever get to the truth of why that was, but I noticed certain newspapers were all over it. Whatever the reason it's down to the parents to challenge it.

If it's the same Eastleigh that I'm thinking of, it certainly don't compare to the arsehole that did this a couple of days ago... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg84eng198o
I wonder if it's the same school that forced non Muslim girls to wear hijabs the other week