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cini65 said:
Apart from Liverpool, who else in the league are a very good team? And I don't mean by their own standards (before you try and include Forest and Bournemouth). I mean objectively very good full stop.

Arsena are objectively only quite good and they're the second best team in the league. Or are you going to argue that actually Arsenal are currently very good?
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Why don't you get the rest of aftv to give them all a game and let us know how well you get on.
 
cini65 said:
Apart from Liverpool, who else in the league are a very good team? And I don't mean by their own standards (before you try and include Forest and Bournemouth). I mean objectively very good full stop.

Arsena are objectively only quite good and they're the second best team in the league. Or are you going to argue that actually Arsenal are currently very good?
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cini65 said:
Apart from Liverpool, who else in the league are a very good team? And I don't mean by their own standards (before you try and include Forest and Bournemouth). I mean objectively very good full stop.

Arsena are objectively only quite good and they're the second best team in the league. Or are you going to argue that actually Arsenal are currently very good?
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considering CL form you and Villa
 
cini65 said:
Why don't you answer the question and say who's a very good team in the prem?
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After you've introduced your own ridiculous parameters that prevent an answer? ...

" ...by their own standards" ... <doh>

Bournemouth, Brighton, Forest and, indeed, Brentford are all very good teams ... that's why they are all doing very well ...
 
Solid Air 2 said:
considering CL form you and Villa
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Villa have lost more than a quarter of their prem games and have a GD of -2. Seriously? Arsenal are on track for just under 80pts. It's been quite a few years since the team in 2nd didn't reach at least 80pts and that was the 2020-21 season when Liverpool had all those injuries and crashed and burned and it was a one-team league with City winning it in 2nd gear. Another poor league that year with only one good team.

I just can't see how any team finishing below 80pts can be classed as a very good team.
 
luvgonzo said:
I disagree, it's a trophy and we'll want to win it and much SSD Newcastle. If we can get the league as well it's a double and that's a superb season.
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On recent evidence we have very little chance. We've looked ****e and you guys are the best side by a mile anyway.
 
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luvgonzo said:
I disagree, it's a trophy and we'll want to win it and much SSD Newcastle. If we can get the league as well it's a double and that's a superb season.
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All about opinions ... but Birmingham won this trophy not so long back against Arsenal ... which I would cite as a good example of my thinking ...

We beat Chelsea in the FA Cup final the same season as they won the CL (if memory serves) wasn't that they weren't up for it ...but I did feel we wanted it more on the day ...

Anyways - only time will tell... it is a final I'm really looking forward to ...
 
FosseFilberto said:
After you've introduced your own ridiculous parameters that prevent an answer? ...

" ...by their own standards" ... <doh>

Bournemouth, Brighton, Forest and, indeed, Brentford are all very good teams ... that's why they are all doing very well ...
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Brentford have finished 13th, 9th, 16th and currently are 11th. What are you talking about?

Brighton 16, 9, 6, 11 and now 9th. Again, they're a consistently mid-table average prem team.

Bournemouth and Forest are having good seasons compared to their usual mediocrity, but to class them as very good teams is a stretch, but at least there's more weight to that argument. But even then, any team that loses more than a quarter of their games are not very good in my opinion.
 
luvgonzo said:
It can all change in the day, you've got good players and have a chance but it'll be tough game for both teams.
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Isak and Salah are two of the very few players who could win matches all by themselves, so, while it's nowhere being a 50/50 game, it's not out of the question that Newcastle win it. But I can't see it as they're simply worse than Liverpool.
 
cini65 said:
Brentford have finished 13th, 9th, 16th and currently are 11th. What are you talking about?

Brighton 16, 9, 6, 11 and now 9th. Again, they're a consistently mid-table average prem team.

Bournemouth and Forest are having good seasons compared to their usual mediocrity, but to class them as very good teams is a stretch, but at least there's more weight to that argument. But even then, any team that loses more than a quarter of their games are not very good in my opinion.
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You must be a right hoot at parties ...

As a neutral I currently love watching Bournemouth ... before them (and even now) Brighton ... got nowt to do with where they've finished in past seasons ... but everything to do with the very pleasing on the eye footie they play and, in Brighton's case, have played for a few years ...
 
cini65 said:
Isak and Salah are two of the very few players who could win matches all by themselves, so, while it's nowhere being a 50/50 game, it's not out of the question that Newcastle win it. But I can't see it as they're simply worse than Liverpool.
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I remember a certain FA Cup final when we were worse than you it didn't matter though.
 
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