It is also good to note the grandparents, great grandparents (paternal and maternal) when checking on breeding, especially over long distance events in soft ground conditions. There are scores of good old sires in this respect, and it would be difficult to start a fair list without leaving out many. Some which spring immediately to mind are Ardross, Vimy, Levmoss, Bob Back, Top Ville, Mossborough, Gunner B, Bustino, Alleged, Reliance II.....................the list goes on and on, but all of these oldtimers have a huge influence on NH breeding and, likewise, on stamina indications. Quite important I would say, especially when the sire and damsire's average distance for progeny is at first sight not too revealing?