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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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So in summary, this is just a massive tax cut for the richest in America.
Food, medical care, mortgage, petrol prices, energy costs will not reduce.
 
It was intentional, he knew that it would make headlines and that's all these people want, remain relevant and in the conversation no matter what. There will be those who think it wasn't intentional and we'll have another online argument about it all and Musk chuckles away at himself.
indeed.
Plus the black power symbol is a fist in the air.

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Yet the white power symbol is an open hand

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And thats why whites win, because everyone knows paper beats rock :bandit:
 
indeed.
Plus the black power symbol is a fist in the air.

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Yet the white power symbol is an open hand

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And thats why whites win, because everyone knows paper beats rock :bandit:

Well that version of Mein Kampf is a lot shorter than the original <laugh>
 
Why am I not surprised you’re an expert on the proper technique for a Sieg Heil salute? Have you been practicing in the mirror?
That was a cut and paste of comments from non-Nazi experts.

Remember this bro? What do you make of it?

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Musk would have a much better case to brush off his Salute as having nothing to do with fascism, if he wasn't funding Tommy Robinson's legal cases or tweeting support for far right AFD fascist party in Germany

Just sayin'
Mate,

You have shown your true colours on here with the Israel thread. Time and again you let your anti-semitism slip and you were called out for it. You have defended Corbyn on here after he turned the Labour Party into one big racist anti-Jewish movement and even called him a man of principles after he’s been shown to do a Nazi salute.

Pot and kettle springs to mind when I see you call other people out as racists or fascists.

Just sayin’
 
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Mate,

You have shown your true colours on here with the Israel thread. Time and again you let your anti-semitism slip and you were called out for it. You have defended Corbyn on here after he turned the Labour Party into one big racist anti-Jewish movement and even called him a man of principles after he’s been shown to do a Nazi salute.

Pot and kettle springs to mind when I see you call other people out as racists or fascists.

Just sayin’

If I’m an anti semite then you’re a fascist.

I think you and I both know that ain’t true
 
Oh I thought that was about right. <whistle>

There’s a lot of lazy accusations banded about, not just on here, but in wider society too. Criticism of Israel’s govt isn’t anti semitic, but there are those who will throw that accusation around to try and shut down the debate and deflect away from the atrocities they’ve meted out in Gaza.

Anyway, this has been done to death on the war thread and it just goes around in circles now.
 
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There’s a lot of lazy accusations banded about, not just on here, but in wider society too. Criticism of Israel’s govt isn’t anti semitic, but there are those who will throw that accusation around to try and shut down the debate and deflect away from the atrocities they’ve meted out in Gaza.

Anyway, this has been done to death on the war thread and it just goes around in circles now.
I don't care tbh. Was just joking.
 
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I think the political ideology that most Western nations follow is simply dead, it died in 2008 with the financial crash. Neoliberalism is a zombie ideology, it's kept alive by rich people who still benefit from it, but they're increasingly a minority of people. Especially now that the middle class are starting to suffer to.

The happiest nations on Earth according to polling are consistently the countries that millionaires and billionaires don't want to live in, don't keep their money invested in and abandon their citizenships. It's a myth that having the mega rich in your country saves everyone. Millionaires leaving the UK for Spain is Spains loss, as we can see from their rampant cost of living hike causing riots and protests.

I'm not "eat the rich" but across the board people need to be paying more into the system. And ffs stop giving private companies the job of inspecting then fixing roads and ****, they do a bloody terrible job. Last time I was in the UK I felt like some roads needed a monster truck to drive.
 
I think the political ideology that most Western nations follow is simply dead, it died in 2008 with the financial crash. Neoliberalism is a zombie ideology, it's kept alive by rich people who still benefit from it, but they're increasingly a minority of people. Especially now that the middle class are starting to suffer to.

The happiest nations on Earth according to polling are consistently the countries that millionaires and billionaires don't want to live in, don't keep their money invested in and abandon their citizenships. It's a myth that having the mega rich in your country saves everyone. Millionaires leaving the UK for Spain is Spains loss, as we can see from their rampant cost of living hike causing riots and protests.

I'm not "eat the rich" but across the board people need to be paying more into the system. And ffs stop giving private companies the job of inspecting then fixing roads and ****, they do a bloody terrible job. Last time I was in the UK I felt like some roads needed a monster truck to drive.
Oh yeah, the country is ****ed and it's all Starmers fault. Not sure what happened before he took over a little while back.
 
I think the political ideology that most Western nations follow is simply dead, it died in 2008 with the financial crash. Neoliberalism is a zombie ideology, it's kept alive by rich people who still benefit from it, but they're increasingly a minority of people. Especially now that the middle class are starting to suffer to.

The happiest nations on Earth according to polling are consistently the countries that millionaires and billionaires don't want to live in, don't keep their money invested in and abandon their citizenships. It's a myth that having the mega rich in your country saves everyone. Millionaires leaving the UK for Spain is Spains loss, as we can see from their rampant cost of living hike causing riots and protests.

I'm not "eat the rich" but across the board people need to be paying more into the system. And ffs stop giving private companies the job of inspecting then fixing roads and ****, they do a bloody terrible job. Last time I was in the UK I felt like some roads needed a monster truck to drive.

The argument (excuse) from the rich has always been if you tax the rich, they will **** off and take their money with them and the rest of us will suffer as a result. Utter bollocks. Their wealth doesn’t benefit the rest of society anyway as they hoard it for themselves and use it to buy off politicians to ensure that the conditions are favourable for them to get even richer, whilst everybody else struggles with the basic cost of living.

Trickle down economics is a myth that has been long overdue exposed as a sham, but it’s still used as an excuse to allow the rich to call the shots.

I was pleased to see that Labour ended the non dom status and the tax breaks for private schools, but they need to do much more, although it’s such a systemic problem embedded within the current system, that it will take years to untangle
 
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rickle down economics is a myth that has been long overdue exposed as a sham
To a degree, someone who has a job, and earns 250k a year, would technically be in the 1%, but that guy isnt going to be employing hundreds of people and creating jobs and companies.
A Billionaire though, Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg for example, also in the 1% DO create businesses and jobs for the working class.
So why Trickle down economics is a thing, its not just down to the "1%", more like 1% of the 1% if that makes sense.

Even still, I still dont think its ever a good thing to have so much money in the hands of one person, or one corporation, because you are then banking on that person or organisation to do good things with it, and we all know that more often than not, they aint.
 
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To a degree, someone who has a job, and earns 250k a year, would technically be in the 1%, but that guy isnt going to be employing hundreds of people and creating jobs and companies.
A Billionaire though, Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg for example, also in the 1% DO create businesses and jobs for the working class.
So why Trickle down economics is a thing, its not just down to the "1%", more like 1% of the 1% if that makes sense.

Even still, I still dont think its ever a good thing to have so much money in the hands of one person, or one corporation, because you are then banking on that person or organisation to do good things with it, and we all know that more often than not, they aint.

I think the issue is that there’s a culture of ‘we’re untouchable’ in the very wealthy circles. We don’t have to pay our fair share because 1. We’ll threaten to take our business elsewhere 2: we’ve made it our mission to embed ourselves in the political system to ensure that conditions are favourable for us.

There’s absolutely no evidence that these people would up sticks and leave if they were made to pay their fair share. And to the Tories credit, they called HSBC’s bluff on it when they threatened to pull out when a banking windfall was levied. HSBC stfu because they knew there was too much money to be lost in the UK if they left. The same principle would apply to any industry CEO who’s threatening to walk away from a lucrative British market.

Even having said that, even if they left, somebody would quickly fill their place in the market, so why not just make it the underlying principle that taxation is fair across the board, and that’s a condition of being licenced to trade in the UK. That hasn’t happened so far because the system has been rigged to be preferable to the wealthy.

The only notable businessmen who up sticks and left were people like James Dyson who campaigned for Brexit which then made it more expensive for his business to deal with Europe, the ****ing nobber <laugh>
 
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