It's also a deliberate ploy to misrepresent Islam and whip up hate and division, coz that's what gets folk watching GB news and voting for Reform.
@Sucky has been groomed by these online gangs and he can't even see it.
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It's also a deliberate ploy to misrepresent Islam and whip up hate and division, coz that's what gets folk watching GB news and voting for Reform.
@Sucky has been groomed by these online gangs and he can't even see it.
And the Catholic church protects *****philes
Is that the fault of the religion or the people who abuse their positions ?
Everyone is always fast to bring up the Catholic church for this stuff
Turns out the Church of England has been doing it for years n'all and those vicars/bishops are even allowed to marry and have families.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely as they say
I’m not going to go down the Sucky route of right wing froth but I do think there’s a difference between an institution or organisation covering something up, be that the church or a political party, and a segment of society doing so. There will be a number of Orthodox Jews doing similar somewhere on a smaller scale and that community will turn a blind eye in the same way I’m sure. Thousands of people will have known and done nothing either through fear or just not caring.
Oi, leave the CofE alone bro.
But yeah you are right, it's in every religion for sure and it's always been hidden or brushed under the carpet. As I pointed out with Epstein Island as an example, there will be people at the very top throughout society, that will ensure only those lower down the chain get caught if they have to put someone out to be culled, to divert attentions.
without a doubt because man is corrupt regardless of what faith they follow or in Sucky’s case what men and their views he follows like the typical Athiest he is
Problem I have is Sucky knows absolutely **** all about Islam beyond what he has been told or shown. Never read a page of the Quran in his life so puts it all down to Islam…that kind of ignorance is mind boggling for an intelligent man like myself.
He epitomises the Athiest who thinks he’s a free thinker but really many men are busy formulating his thoughts for him by ‘normalising’ their own corrupt thoughts into society and he buys them hook, line and sinker.
He is exactly what an extremist ‘Muslim’ is…confused like **** and massively ignorant.
I remember watching a video years ago but I just cannot find it anymore.
Fella was saying that the number 1 thing you always find with extremism of any kind is a lack of education, that is the number 1 defining trait in it. The ones that have education utilize it to get themselves a higher position in the organization so that they can benefit from others lack thereof. Take the Taliban, most of the members are from poor villages, they can't even read, let alone comprehend the Quran, so all it takes is one fella to tell them what it means, tell them what they need to do and they'll improve, they'll have a better life, save themselves etc. etc.
What do these guys do as soon as they have power, they take away education from the women, cos then they have even more ignorant people, women who don't know anything about why they dress as they do or do as they're told.
As you say the "new wave Atheism" movement had a lot of this, I remember growing up as a kid watching that stuff on youtube like it was my own personal religion. Introducing terms to you like "strawman" "the burden of proof" etc etc that you repeated again yourself when you had the chance. Anyone who followed a religion was an idiot, I was awakened. It's the exact same ****.
Most of those new wave atheists are today Christians, go figure.
exactly this
I’ve been observing the Sucky’s of society for decades because I’ve had to
they made me understand that the gun isn’t the problem, it’s the person who’s hand it’s in is always the problem
I've read these bits
Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them
Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.
Now it's your turn to tell me I've misinterpreted the words wrong yeh?
I've read these bits
Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them
Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.
Now it's your turn to tell me I've misinterpreted the words wrong yeh?
Allah makes it evident to fight those only who fight them, fighting in self-defence...
https://www.ask-a-muslim.com/en/and-kill-them-wherever-you-find-them-quran-2191-explained/
As I said.
Now it's your turn to tell me I've misinterpreted the words wrong yeh?
There was a good bit I found on Quora about it, but the parts were bolded and didn't carry over to here as such, so I couldn't be arsed to fook about with it. But in short it refers to aggressors, and has been misinterpreted, because you have to read the whole thing, rather than in parts....that's how I understood it anyway, Spurly will explain it better.
I've read these bits
Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them
Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.
Now it's your turn to tell me I've misinterpreted the words wrong yeh?
yeh of course
that’s talking about defending yourself from your oppressors, it’s talking about the Meccans who drove Mohammed out of Mecca, that was his home
‘Don’t attack them at the mosque, unless they attack you there’
The Mosque is seen as sacred and away from such acts of violence unless you have no choice. Once again talking about the pagan Meccans who were threatening to kill the Muslims as they felt threatened(like you seem to be bro) with this new faith that could destroy their pagan practices established over many years by their ignorant forefathers.
Nothing there suggesting to go out and kill innocent people
you need to add the context
thanks for proving my point
Out at friend's currently bro butyeh of course
that’s talking about defending yourself from your oppressors, it’s talking about the Meccans who drove Mohammed out of Mecca, that was his home
‘Don’t attack them at the mosque, unless they attack you there. The Mosque is seen as sacred and away from such acts of violence unless you have no choice. Once again talking about the pagan Meccans who were threatening to kill the Muslims as they felt threatened(like you seem to be bro) with this new faith that could destroy their pagan practices established over many years by their ignorant forefathers.
Nothing there suggesting to go out and kill innocent people
you need to add the context
thanks for proving my point
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Targeting and making noise about Muslim grooming gangs is absolutely fine. Nobody will or should have a problem with that.I've read these bits
Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them
Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.
Now it's your turn to tell me I've misinterpreted the words wrong yeh?
I’ve personally been outspoken against the BBC ***** ring and their cover ups. I’ve definitely been outspoken on here against the Catholic Church and what I think of them and their covering up child abuse. Now, I’m calling out the Muslim grooming gangs and the authorities for the sickening cover up. I’m consistent and do it all with a clear conscience.
What you’re doing here though is a direct attack on every Muslim and their way of life. Tommy Robinson literally uses the verses you have put up when he’s giving speeches to the nazis who follow him around hanging out the back of him.
Don’t conflate the two issues between your every day Muslim and the criminal grooming gangs which happen to be Muslim.