Off Topic Politics Thread

It's known tradition for a President to pardon a turkey around Thanksgiving!

 

The whole concept of presidential pardons is wrong. Any miscarriages of justice should corrected by an independent impartial judiciary which is lacking in the US where judges are political appointments. Those that have committed crime should do the time, Trump is a convicted felon and fraudster, Biden Jnr should answer his charges. I'm sure that no stone has been left unturned in the search for incriminating evidence for Biden and his family to face.

 

Careful Os, calling someone brainwashed, especially someone like Tom who is hardly a leftist, is almost indistinguishable from an insult. Rein it in please.

 

I did not mean it as an insult.
On the contrary I find it extremely important to point out to people when they have been brainwashed by propaganda, as it is very difficult to wake up from on your own.



Many on the left are suffering from this same brainwashing.

When Trump does something it is “abhorrent”

When Biden does something “they understand it”

 

I don’t agree with it at all, but I can understand why an elderly man, who lost his first wife and daughter in a car crash, and his son to brain cancer, might take the opportunity to save his remaining son.

It’s not “right”, but you’d be devoid of empathy if you couldn’t see why he might do that if it’s in his powers.

 

(You can also see why it might push a remaining child into drugs and an unhealthy way of life if you have any synapses left that aren’t poisoned by making everything about politics).

 

The problem isn’t that he’s done it.

It’s that he SPECIFICALLY said MULTIPLE times that he CATEGORICALLY wouldn’t do this.

His whole campaign was based on honesty and supposedly being less corrupt than Trump.

 

To be fair Biden pardoning his son will damage his legacy and it is obviously an abuse of privilege. One that Presidents have abused before and Trump criticising Biden for something like this is brass neckery, but it is an abuse none the less.

I can however understand the reasons why he might want to protect him given that his safety would probably have been in question, but it doesn’t mean it’s right either, it will be a black mark on Biden’s record but probably one he is more than happy to take and I can’t imagine he will ever regret it.

 

What about the sexual abuse, money laundering and Ukraine corruption?

Is that excused too?

Why are you guys so willing to overlook the Biden crime family, while at the same time showing so much disgust and hurling insults at Trump?

I honestly can’t get over the hypocrisy from the left on here. It staggers me

 

Yeah. It’s wrong. And he’s shot himself in the foot (not for the first time). But I get it.

 

I’m talking about the stuff that’s been proved. Hunter’s a **** up. I’m just saying that I understand why someone within those circumstances might be a **** up. Not excusing anything, or throwing jibes at Trump (and I’m not part of ‘the left’, or ‘the right’ or any other label).

 

Exactly this.

 

Oh that’s fine then.

No big deal.

Who cares that he’s lied about absolutely everything?
Who cares about honesty or integrity?

It shows once and for all that Biden didn’t care at all about America. He only cared about himself and his lust for power.

I was laughed at and called mental for saying he was worse than Trump.

But I was correct - again

 

If I was an old man, losing my mind to senility, with one remaining son, I would chop off my own arm for his happiness and eat broken glass before I let him sit in jail.

 

What is this ‘I was right’ game, you keep playing? Are we in a playground?

 

Bit of a leap between doing this and “lying about absolutely everything”.

This is a single “**** it” move.

 

You’ve repeatedly shown yourself incapable of having a discussion without getting personal and throwing insults about. You seem to have a lot of trouble managing your emotions, perhaps it’s all that testosterone?

 

Not true. I wasn’t the one who started the insults. It started with jabbo and loading etc calling me a conspiraloon and a mentalist when I said Biden was a worse option than Trump when he was elected.

Literally everything that’s happened since then has proven me correct. I’m not saying this to be like “I was right”.

I’m saying it because it’s important that people recalibrate their world view. They were duped completely and it’s important they understand that, otherwise it will happen again

 

I didn’t excuse it, just laid it out for what it is.

For me anyone who says it is fine is wrong.

Anyone who pretends Trump is in anyway superior on this kind of matter is also wrong. See pardons for Steve Bannon, Elliot Broidy (Republican fundraiser), Ken Kurson (for being Jared Kushners buddy), also Jared Kushner’s Father Charles, who he has now given a job.