Off Topic Politics Thread

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Osvaldorama said:
I believe he is pissed off enough at the government overreach, censorship and general malaise of the West that this is real now.

A guy doesn’t spend 44bn dollars and then quit.

He’s even more relentless than Trump. If anyone can usher in a golden age to American business, it’s Elon musk.

I don’t care what people on here and lefties say, he is one of the most inspirational people in the world. He has a ridiculous track record of going “all in” and winning.
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It’s already being reported that the romance between him and Trump is going south. A tale of 2 massive ego’s…what could possibly go wrong!
Trump is supposedly furious that some “left wing” media outlets are now calling Trump, Vice President Trump and Musk, President Musk <laugh>
 
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Hampshire have been accused of taking part in a “sportswashing vehicle” before their participation in this month’s Global Super League in Guyana, a T20 tournament sponsored by the oil giant ExxonMobil.

Hampshire’s participation in the GSL comes despite their venue’s public commitment to playing a leading global role in environmental sustainability. The Utilita Bowl celebrated switching on more than 1,000 solar panels before a T20 between England and Australia in September. David Mann, chief executive of the Utilita Bowl, used the initiative to highlight “our commitment to being the greenest international cricket venue

They really don’t give a ****
 
Why is the Guardian now so obsessed with how much Government Advisors are paid when it wasn’t before the election?

“Ministers are hiring a new EU negotiator as Keir Starmer seeks to reset Britain’s relationship with Europe.

The post, worth at least £153,000 a year and advertised by the Cabinet Office, would act as a representative for all of the UK’s dealings with the bloc”
 
shoot_spiderman said:
Why is the Guardian now so obsessed with how much Government Advisors are paid when it wasn’t before the election?

“Ministers are hiring a new EU negotiator as Keir Starmer seeks to reset Britain’s relationship with Europe.

The post, worth at least £153,000 a year and advertised by the Cabinet Office, would act as a representative for all of the UK’s dealings with the bloc”
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Because their dreams of everyone working for the state meant frontline, not a vast overpaid blob fleecing normal folks :D
 
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I have just seen a post on Facebook, made by a political activist group that claims that the aid referred to on this front page was allocated by the previous Tory government. I haven’t checked, as I can’t be bothered and because I don’t have an issue with the aid being given, but if that is the case I am sure that the Daily Express will print a front page correction.

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https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/22/bluesky-is-hell-on-earth/

And

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/18/the-funniest-x-odus-flouncers/

At least one big account has made good on its promise to leave X for good – the official account of the Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol. It announced last week that, due to the ‘rise of inappropriate content and decrease in meaningful engagement with our followers’, it would no longer be posting on X. Broadcaster Carol Vorderman was so impressed that she and Humanists UK’s Alice Roberts made a video next to the iconic bridge celebrating the news – and posted it on X, naturally.
 
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It's Only A Game said:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/22/bluesky-is-hell-on-earth/

And

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/18/the-funniest-x-odus-flouncers/

At least one big account has made good on its promise to leave X for good – the official account of the Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol. It announced last week that, due to the ‘rise of inappropriate content and decrease in meaningful engagement with our followers’, it would no longer be posting on X. Broadcaster Carol Vorderman was so impressed that she and Humanists UK’s Alice Roberts made a video next to the iconic bridge celebrating the news – and posted it on X, naturally.
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Not sure why you feel this is strange, surely publicising that you’re leaving X on X is rather obvious, wouldn’t you think?
 
Imagine the shock for the Daily Mail when it finds out Tory plans were for fines of £5k - later reduced to £3k - for each missed heat pump sale. What Ed Miliband has done is to reduce that to £500. As Torsten Bell says today the Headline should read “Miliband slashes Tory boiler tax”



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Mail on Sunday …

“Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has written in the Mail on Sunday, pledging to crack down on a "bulging benefits bill blighting our society". Starmer says in his piece that he will make "sweeping changes" to the country's £137 billion welfare bill, a move paper describes an attempt to "steal the Tories' political clothes" over welfare abuse”

Errr … there’s just been 14 years of Tory rule, would these be the Tories’ clothes as in the Emperors clothes <laugh>
 
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shoot_spiderman said:
Mail on Sunday …

“Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has written in the Mail on Sunday, pledging to crack down on a "bulging benefits bill blighting our society". Starmer says in his piece that he will make "sweeping changes" to the country's £137 billion welfare bill, a move paper describes an attempt to "steal the Tories' political clothes" over welfare abuse”

Errr … there’s just been 14 years of Tory rule, would these be the Tories’ clothes as in the Emperors clothes <laugh>
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Not sure why he is writing in The Mail tbh. Tony Blair (with Alastair Campbell in his corner) managed to get something approaching a fair hearing from the right wing press on occasion, but the landscape has changed since then. The Mail and Mail on Sunday, also the Telegraph, are absolutely lost causes, not really worth bothering with imo. Starmer genuinely has more chance of being heard in the Spectator than any of those appalling rags.
 
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shoot_spiderman said:
Mail on Sunday …

“Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has written in the Mail on Sunday, pledging to crack down on a "bulging benefits bill blighting our society". Starmer says in his piece that he will make "sweeping changes" to the country's £137 billion welfare bill, a move paper describes an attempt to "steal the Tories' political clothes" over welfare abuse”

Errr … there’s just been 14 years of Tory rule, would these be the Tories’ clothes as in the Emperors clothes <laugh>
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Centrists be centrists. Say left or right things but do the same policies. As long as they keep the money going upward at the expense of those below.
 
Archers Road said:
Not sure why he is writing in The Mail tbh. Tony Blair (with Alastair Campbell in his corner) managed to get something approaching a fair hearing from the right wing press on occasion, but the landscape has changed since then. The Mail and Mail on Sunday, also the Telegraph, are absolutely lost causes, not really worth bothering with imo. Starmer genuinely has more chance of being heard in the Spectator than any of those appalling rags.
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It’s to confuse the enemy
It’ll confuse them more if he manages to do it by getting people into productive work rather than just slagging them off for being work-shy
 
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Saw a report yesterday that Spain will be giving documents to up to 300,000 undocumented immigrants per year.
This is because they need people to fill the gaps in the employment market and they realise that they can’t do it without immigration.
Maybe the UK can monitor this and use asylum seekers, because the same problem exists in the UK.
And getting them working lowers the cost of keeping them housed in hotels and earns more taxes.
 
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Shandy_top_89 said:
I'd generously say that article is about a decade late to the party. Its not just crumbling, it's basically a cheesecake base at this point.
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Even the punchline about National Service is a year out of date. I had to check the date of the article.

But another article trying to intensify the them vs us rhetoric. The city professional who ‘props up the whole social system’ is simultaneously disgusted at the thought of caring for old people. Actually, the social contract is propped up by all, for all, and its failure fails all of us.

Piss poor journalism.
 
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