Off Topic A new dawn

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All overtime ceased at our place with “a huge challenge on finance in the second half of the year with a governance on spend we are not used to”. Multi-Billion pound company with tens of thousands of employees. Coincidentally right after the increase on employer NI tax :emoticon-0149-no:
 
All overtime ceased at our place with “a huge challenge on finance in the second half of the year with a governance on spend we are not used to”. Multi-Billion pound company with tens of thousands of employees. Coincidentally right after the increase on employer NI tax :emoticon-0149-no:
New budget going well then<laugh>
 
All overtime ceased at our place with “a huge challenge on finance in the second half of the year with a governance on spend we are not used to”. Multi-Billion pound company with tens of thousands of employees. Coincidentally right after the increase on employer NI tax :emoticon-0149-no:
Sorry to hear that marra.

According to GMB this morning they’ve moved 2 points ahead in the most recent poll!
I think that's still off the back of the budget and nowt to do with Kemi's performance.
 
Sorry to hear that marra.


I think that's still off the back of the budget and nowt to do with Kemi's performance.

I agree, but I’m still quite shocked at how fast people have turned. As much as I didn’t want labour in for my own reasons which I’ve been vocal about even before the election, surely if you voted them in you give them more than a few months before going back to the party you saw as “horrific”?
 
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You're probably right, likely more bad news in the next budget but then slowly improving after that.
Hopefully

This is how I saw it unfolding even before they came into power, awful at the start but hopefully will improve over time. There are definitely things I think Labour could have handled better, like the winter fuel allowances etc, but the harsh reality is the economy is in a bad way and needs to improve.

Any sensible party will know they can't just spend without any cuts or tax rises.
 
Just on a call now about the OT situation I mentioned, was right it’s down to the government NI tax. £100m hole created within the business finances. Thousands of working class people shafted right before Xmas.
This Labour govt seem naieve at best, incapable at worst. The NI move was only ever going to be passed on to workers. So this idea the working man wouldnt pay is a ridiculous slieght of hand on their part, or they are just economically inept. Jobs will be lost as a result, wage will decrease im real terms, prices will go up, and we will be worse off. Less money for the working man, less money to spend and boost the economy.

My local butcher, independant small trader, reckons he will probably shut up shop within 12 months due to this govt policies. He was no lover of the last lot, but he reckons this lot will see businesses fail fast.

I see today our country's borrowing is much higher than expected and interest payments on borrowing at a high. The pay increases to public sector workers Labour dished out in the first few weeks now hitting home. We were broke, now we seem even more so. Who could have ever predicted it? Inflation creeping back up too. There seems to me to little understanding by the new govt on how to generate economic growth, which is what they talk about. They worry me.

And we are still to see the size of the cold Trump will pass on to us.

We seem knackered as a global society, and local societies, and politicians of all colours have helped us get here and have no idea how to fix it. All this debate about farmers is interesting, but not fundamentally relevant to the state we find ourselves in. The big political picture is an utter mess. Politicians, I suspect, rub their hands at the level of noise created by the farming decisions, when in fact the much bigger crisis we are facing is allowed to get worse month by month, quarter by quarter and there is no accountability.
 
This Labour govt seem naieve at best, incapable at worst. The NI move was only ever going to be passed on to workers. So this idea the working man wouldnt pay is a ridiculous slieght of hand on their part, or they are just economically inept. Jobs will be lost as a result, wage will decrease im real terms, prices will go up, and we will be worse off. Less money for the working man, less money to spend and boost the economy.

My local butcher, independant small trader, reckons he will probably shut up shop within 12 months due to this govt policies. He was no lover of the last lot, but he reckons this lot will see businesses fail fast.

I see today our country's borrowing is much higher than expected and interest payments on borrowing at a high. The pay increases to public sector workers Labour dished out in the first few weeks now hitting home. We were broke, now we seem even more so. Who could have ever predicted it? Inflation creeping back up too. There seems to me to little understanding by the new govt on how to generate economic growth, which is what they talk about. They worry me.

And we are still to see the size of the cold Trump will pass on to us.

We seem knackered as a global society, and local societies, and politicians of all colours have helped us get here and have no idea how to fix it. All this debate about farmers is interesting, but not fundamentally relevant to the state we find ourselves in. The big political picture is an utter mess. Politicians, I suspect, rub their hands at the level of noise created by the farming decisions, when in fact the much bigger crisis we are facing is allowed to get worse month by month, quarter by quarter and there is no accountability.
That post should come with a health warning, Fell. Not pleasant reading!