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[realred1952]

We are now a 3rd party - before Wrexit we could hold the French to account - now they give even less of a fk than they did before.
Taking back control - my fat arse!!!!!

every interview he ... Harmer the 2 tier . greedy POLITICAL IQ...zero! gets embroiled with makes him more and more like a no0nsenseical clown! had £100k+ [ load of clothes etc ] todays interview he should have worn something that fits not looks like a mismatch of items from a local charity shop!
As for Brexit he doesnt like being wrong! / beaten/ second fiddle to a good idea .... so as a remainer he will not give 100% for it .... why ? because it was not his idea and it was lost vote in his eyes!!! first thing he did was to try and suck up to the EURO UNION!
Actually when you look back at what the tories had to overcome in the 14 years, one item not bandied about [ I forgot about it when analyzing Labour debt and fiscal aspects ] was our out payment of £13bn + to the general fund, [ some of this is still being paid out or is ending this year!???
Leaving via Brexit was to also help our borders since July 4th they have been well and truly breached ...............

 

[Angelicnumber16]

More and more millionaires are leaving the UK since Labour came to power
Bang goes a lot of entrepreneurs who make money and employ people
The likely rise in employers NI contributions will just be passed on to employees via no pay rises or redundancies. How will any of this promote growth, or tell companies that the UK is a good place to run a business from ?

A totally backward step when they’re protecting public sector workers and their huge final salary pensions !
THAT WE PAY FOR ANYWAY

Starmer will talk about anything except immigration. He wants to 'smash the gangs', his words not mine, but with an estimated 700 of them operating he has absolutely no chance. It's like playing Wack A Mole. As soon as you get one, another one pops up elsewhere.

They will throw more tax payers money at the NHS but they still won’t address the root cause of a lot of squandered money on non jobs like DEI, worthless virtue signalling roles and asking 65 year old men if they are pregnant, and needless middle managers earning fortunes, and I don't believe waiting lists will come down when millions of invaders continue to come here and stain the services even more every day.

In my humble opinion, people who deliberately miss GP or Hospital appointments should be fined and not given another one until they’ve paid up, as should those who end up in A&E through misuse of drink or drugs should also pay for their care.

 

[realred1952]

final salary pensions.. [ sorry to make comparisons from my chats up north but at this point time but everyone seems to be embroiled the present "worst state since Boris! ] a couple work for the Scottish ".gov / public sector" their pay is not really massive, but livable and the pensions they will get will likely be the equal almost of what they take home now!
The OBR plans to release news tomorrow on day of budget which is against the "rules" of impatiallity" in the past there have been cases of people in positions [ like speakers of the house/s ] who are party faithfuls but have to enforce upon themselves impartiality, but dont ]
had Rishi called the election in say November it is possible that the trend for 2024 they had started and was extremely successful [ interest/ inflation/ immigrants / growth/ gdp /etc ] would be the equal of or better than now! there is a sort of rollover period of 3 month'to firm up each category ... BOE stated they waited for at least 3 month's ..ish ... to ensure the inflation was stable not a blip! Basically 4th OCTOBER WAS END OF TORY RULE ON ALL THESE THINGS [ what they had in place pre July4th! ]

Harmer has totally screwed up on the boat people in an awful lot of PMQ'S he was opposed to all things tory party was doing ... in opposition it is not like being a prosecutor v a defence lawyer which is what he harps on about as his experience to be PM!!!!!! Harmer was against all ways Tories addressed the boat people.. BUT NEVER ONCE SAID THEY HAD A PLAN and every PMQ's and mean every PMQ'S he was slapped down and ended with a face like like a slapped horses ***... As a PM he allowed this bitterness and humiliation to oversee his attitude and embarrassment by being anti everything he inherited. Like Putrid who will go down in history & moreso Russian history as an EVIL BIGOT with no concerns to the people of Russia ......... Harmer can/ could well be the equivalent to the Labour party and UK history.

I dont visit to many hospitals nowadays [ only as a patient ] when couriering one contract involved at least 1 or 2 jobs to within hospitals a lot of the time having to pass through casuality/waiting areas.... GOSH in London is a childrens hospital like Bristol....... many of its experts actually cover more than one hospital ... Ive been to numerous wards in various hospitals in mainly 6 area's of ENGLAND.... about 11 different hospitals... GOSH [ Great ormond street ] it was very rare in the 4 or 5 wards [ ward area's ] I went to, to see children who were not children of parents who spoke ENGLISH as their first language !! Leaving the 4th/ 5th floor ..going down around 8-30 ish pm was full after second stop and people had to be stopped from getting in, all3 or floors I passed was the same it stopped a crowd of of 10 -15 people all hoping to get on .......... on ground floor was a mad exodus to the entrance!

before retirement a doctor friend said, in a local somerset town [ his practice until 2021 ] had a patient ratio of about 1 to 3 [ when he left ] the 3 speaking none or hardly any english !
He retired at 56 but was intending to retire at 60 ..or later because they were regulars like turning up because they had a cold or ... other minor ???????????

 

[Angelicnumber16]

Keir Harmer and Rachel Thieves - What a pair !

I hope Badenoch wins the Tories leadership contest. Labour simply won't know how to handle her if she does.

And why are the Manchester Airport thugs still enjoying their liberty ?

 

[realred1952]

Keir Harmer and Rachel Thieves - What a pair !

I hope Badenoch wins the Tories leadership contest. Labour simply won't know how to handle her if she does.

And why are the Manchester Airport thugs still enjoying their liberty ?

Did you know that 2 tier Harmer has given a whole bucket load of never before MP'S PLACES IN "GOVERNMENT POSTS" TO KEEP THEM ON SIDE!

She is my choice ... Harmer has never had any luck in retorts all the last TORY LEADERS ... has always tried to belittle them rather than be a politician and have a plan to help or oppose the . gov he will always get the last word at PMQ's but already we have seen Rishi soften the last Q TO AVOID A "DRUBBING last word" .. and Harmers reply has then been out of context that makes him look even a worse clown than he is!

 

[Captain Jack Sparrow]

...I wonder how long it will be before you see an Islamist Political Party more than willing to take over England and make the rules.

I fully expect this to be attempted. I've seen a few videos on different social media platforms where people are chanting for sharia law here in the UK. Now the algorithm on these platforms seems to be only showing me videos like it, but not just here in the UK but across Europe. They escaped their country that has sharia law and they chose to a country in the West that doesn't have sharia law. And they want to turn the country that has accepted them, into a country that similar to what they escaped from. Make sense

...help pay back the country that has given refuge from whatever issue they are escaping...

Thing is, we shouldn't be giving them any refuge to them in the first place. I honestly don't mind having refugee's here in the UK. But we should only be taking them from refugee camps where refugee's have escaped to for safety. There they can apply for immigration, going through the proper channels, meaning countries can control the numbers they are able to take in. But to get on a boat to cross the channel and therefore arriving to our island illegally, we shouldn't accept them at all. They are in effect pushing in front of those in refugee camps that have gone through proper channels and who are desperate for help. They should be priority. Not those crossing the channel costing the taxpayer £8million a day in just paying for their hotels - including meal, electric, heating and water, while we have thousands of Brits that are homeless on the streets across the UK who never been given the same treatment and any Brits having to decide to eat or heat this winter. It frustrates the hell out of me because those crossing the channel illegally have priority over everyone in the country and priority over those going through the proper channels to get help. Why does it bother me? To get to the beach in France to illegally arrive here, they are no longer escaping their homeland. They've already escaped and passed through around 10 safe countries where they could get help if they really needed it. Why do they decide to come here? This is why https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

They get: (even if refused asylum)
Somewhere to live. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.
£49.18 for each person in the household.
Mothers get even more money and £300 grant if their baby is under 6 months.
Free healthcare and prescriptions.
School place for their kids with free school meals provided.

 

[realred1952]

. But to get on a boat to cross the channel and therefore arriving to our island illegally, we shouldn't accept them at all.

They are often touted in their country of origin to pay a fee and be guided across a few 000's of miles to the UK!

costing the taxpayer £8million a day in just paying for their hotels - including meal, electric, heating and water,

US TAX PAYERS DO ACTUALLY foot the bill to the tune of over £5,000,000,000 PA and hotels are contracted to be paid in advance bookings ... rarely does the saturation reach anywhere near 75 -80% of the capacity

When whatever the result of their application is [ yes / no ] they are evicted from hotels and have to find own accomodation which is the local council [ as I stated elsewhere ref Bristol ] ... this means council puts them up we pay via Council tax to do that & naturalised Citizens, young couples /families/ awaiting council houses etc dont get a look in.............

 

[Angelicnumber16]

The country could be saved billions of pounds taxpayers money if the Labour Party reigned in that clown Ed Milliband and his suicidal, and totally unnecessary, drive towards the net zero lie

It's an absolutely criminal and an unnecessary waste of money, when his own 'leader' and chancellor are telling us how broke we all are !

 

[Red Robin]

our people are second class -look what a illegal gets -when classed as a Asylum Seeker- this is what they get from us taxpayers. Asylum support Contents Overview What you'll get Eligibility How to claim Further information What you'll get You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker. Housing You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast. You cannot choose where you live. It’s unlikely you’ll get to live in London or south-east England. Cash support You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries. Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine. If your accommodation provides your meals You’ll get £8.86 for each person in your household instead. If you’ve been refused asylum but you’re still eligible for support You’ll be given: •somewhere to live •£49.18 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries (or £8.86 per person if your accommodation provides your meals) You will not be given: •the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live •any money Extra money for mothers and young children You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation. Your situation Extra payment per week Pregnant mother £5.25 Baby under 1 year old £9.50 Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25 Maternity payment You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old. Applying for the maternity grant You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum. You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support. If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to Migrant Help. Healthcare You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment. You’ll also get: •free prescriptions for medicine •free dental care for your teeth •free eyesight tests •help paying for glasses Education Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals

 

[realred1952]

our people are second class -look what a illegal gets -when classed as a Asylum Seeker- this is what they get from us taxpayers.

you'll get Eligibility How to claim Further information you'll get .......
somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both
Housing could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast. You cannot choose where you live.
Cash support You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. to pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries. Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week.
You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine. If your accommodation provides your meals You’ll get £8.86 for each person in your household instead.

the rest of this is inaccurate but no time to precis it its as RR article so no need to re read
If you’ve been refused asylum but you’re still eligible for support You’ll be given: •somewhere to live •£49.18 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries (or £8.86 per person if your accommodation provides your meals) You will not be given: •the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live •any money Extra money for mothers and young children You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation. Your situation Extra payment per week Pregnant mother £5.25 Baby under 1 year old £9.50 Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25 Maternity payment You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old. Applying for the maternity grant You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum. You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support. If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to Migrant Help. Healthcare You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment. You’ll also get: •free prescriptions for medicine •free dental care for your teeth •free eyesight tests •help paying for glasses Education Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals

 

[Red Robin]

you'll get Eligibility How to claim Further information you'll get .......
somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both
Housing could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast. You cannot choose where you live.
Cash support You’ll usually get £49.18 for each person in your household. to pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries. Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week.
You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine. If your accommodation provides your meals You’ll get £8.86 for each person in your household instead.

the rest of this is inaccurate but no time to precis it its as RR article so no need to re read
If you’ve been refused asylum but you’re still eligible for support You’ll be given: •somewhere to live •£49.18 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries (or £8.86 per person if your accommodation provides your meals) You will not be given: •the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live •any money Extra money for mothers and young children You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child aged 3 or under. The amount you get will depend on your situation. Your situation Extra payment per week Pregnant mother £5.25 Baby under 1 year old £9.50 Child aged 1 to 3 £5.25 Maternity payment You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 11 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 months old. Applying for the maternity grant You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum. You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support. If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to Migrant Help. Healthcare You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment. You’ll also get: •free prescriptions for medicine •free dental care for your teeth •free eyesight tests •help paying for glasses Education Your children must attend school if they are aged 5 to 17. All state schools are free and your children may be able to get free school meals

All true i'm afraid to say straight from the gov.uk website -here you go

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

 

[Angelicnumber16]

All true im afraid to say straight from the gov.uk website -here you go

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

The politicians in the Labour party don't care. Very few in the Tory party care and that's despite the ever growing anger amongst the British public.
Labour have just put the greatest ever tax burden on British workers and on British businesses, but severely curbing legal immigration, and getting the Navy to stop illegal immigration totally in order to save the taxpayer billions, and lessen the tax, they don't want to know.
Smash the gangs ?
In your dreams !

 

[Red Robin]

The politicians in the Labour party don't care. Very few in the Tory party care and that's despite the ever growing anger amongst the British public.
Labour have just put the greatest ever tax burden on British workers and on British businesses, but severely curbing legal immigration, and getting the Navy to stop illegal immigration totally in order to save the taxpayer billions, and lessen the tax, they don't want to know.
Smash the gangs ?
In your dreams !

No mention of the ever increasing costs by the illegals to our economy both in terms of handouts and additional pressure on the nhs-dentists etc who are given it freely- yet we the workers have to pay. So bloody wrong.

 

[realred1952]

All true i'm afraid to say straight from the gov.uk website -here you go

thats a guide on the basic's example is some hotels cost per room others by bed number .. single double double plus 1 [ usually upper bunk over the head of double ] break fast may be included or an add on. as states but not always that simple.... !

When refused asylum ceases to be .gov becomes benefits and local council one of the reasons some councils are buying cheaper houses .. thus robbing young british people to get on housing ladder! the whole latter part is a minefield as the refusal bit often means some abscond refusal means you should leave but appeals structure not as simple as you see it ... some refusals [ a lot!!!! ] are still here after 2-3 years still scrounging!