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[PINKIE]

Exactly my point!

The NHS and the State shouldn't be paying out anything, we should have a system that covers our liabilities. And if that means people paying some cover fee through taxation then so be it. We can't afford £11.5B at the moment, we have a financial black hole to fill, half of it swallowed up by compensation claims.

I think the NHS has indemnity insurance to cover their employees, as I understand it the indemnity that covers negligence or malpractice where a patient is injured is state backed. There's an argument for that to be covered by the private sector, and like you say, the insurance bill to be covered by taxation. But then would Govt be doing the right thing by paying private insurance when the NHS is already badly underfunded ? And what private insurer would touch it ?

Anyway, I agree it's an eye watering amount to be paying out. But I also agree that those who were affected should be compensated.

 

[brb]

I think the NHS has indemnity insurance to cover their employees, as I understand it the indemnity that covers negligence or malpractice where a patient is injured is state backed. There's an argument for that to be covered by the private sector, and like you say, the insurance bill to be covered by taxation. But then would Govt be doing the right thing by paying private insurance when the NHS is already badly underfunded ? And what private insurer would touch it ?

Anyway, I agree it's an eye watering amount to be paying out. But I also agree that those who were affected should be compensated.

Yeah my argument is not whether they should get compensation or not, it's about the way it's being paid out. The state can ill-afford £11.5B then another £1.5B on top of that, we need to look at otherways of covering this, imagine if we get claims over covid, we need to heed the warnings regarding compensation.

 

[PINKIE]

Yeah my argument is not whether they should get compensation or not, it's about the way it's being paid out. The state can ill-afford £11.5B then another £1.5B on top of that, we need to look at otherways of covering this, imagine if we get claims over covid, we need to heed the warnings regarding compensation.

I hear what you're saying

There's a vaccination injuries compensation scheme, but I think with covid there might be claims coming against Astra Zeneca, as they pulled that jab. They cited some clinical reasons for that decision, but there is a growing body of evidence that a lot of people suffered life changing injuries due to blood clots from that vaccine.

 

[brb]

I hear what you're saying

There's a vaccination injuries compensation scheme, but I think with covid there might be claims coming against Astra Zeneca, as they pulled that jab. They cited some clinical reasons for that decision, but there is a growing body of evidence that a lot of people suffered life changing injuries due to blood clots from that vaccine.

Yup and thing is all parties will ignore the problem until one day in the future we get hit with a £1T compensation claim and it will be oops, didn't plan for this. Much like these caribbean claims, another load of bolloxs from when none of us were alive.

 

[duggie2000]

Nah I think they are paying out if they die as well, it's goes to the estate.

Good idea then they can get 40% straight back in inheritance tax

 

[brb]

Good idea then they can get 40% straight back in inheritance tax

I like your thinking Duggie.

 

[Libby]

I can imagine a customer choking on one of Piskies ice creams in the future, not bubble gum flavour, because he don't have that, but another and them suing him for his house and money, leaving his family begging on the streets - yeah, let's see if he agrees with the compensation culture then...as he peddles off into the sunset on his three and half grand bike the customer never knew he had, laughing to himself, you never got this, only for a big fook off rock to come crashing out the sky and mangling it into a scrapheap, god works in mysterious ways.

 

[brb]

 

[duggie2000]

That's why I have public liability insurance lol

Doesn't cover an act of God

 

[PINKIE]

Doesn't cover an act of God

Yeah I meant the choking bit rather than the rock landing on my bike lol

Can you choke on ice cream anyway ?

 

[duggie2000]

Yeah I meant the choking bit rather than the rock landing on my bike lol

Can you choke on ice cream anyway ?

Ask Elvis, he ate far too much ice cream

 

[brb]

Yeah I meant the choking bit rather than the rock landing on my bike lol

Can you choke on ice cream anyway ?

Someone will always find a way to.

 

[duggie2000]

Yeah I meant the choking bit rather than the rock landing on my bike lol

Can you choke on ice cream anyway ?

Being serious someone who is Coeliac from birth or a young age and has a very bad reaction to Gluten could get very ill from eating Ice Cream that is NOT Gluten Free, something to consider when listing every ingredient in the stuff you produce

 

[PINKIE]

Being serious someone who is Coeliac from birth or a young age and has a very bad reaction to Gluten could get very ill from eating Ice Cream that is NOT Gluten Free, something to consider when listing every ingredient in the stuff you produce

I do that already

Allergens have to be listed when you’re selling to the public

 

[Libby]

Being serious someone who is Coeliac from birth or a young age and has a very bad reaction to Gluten could get very ill from eating Ice Cream that is NOT Gluten Free, something to consider when listing every ingredient in the stuff you produce

Much easier for coeliacs now than it was 10-15 years ago.

 

[duggie2000]

Much easier for coeliacs now than it was 10-15 years ago.

That is very true but I am lucky in that it doesn't make me ill it just unbalances my blood levels and immune system for a while

Gluten free flour is often made from almonds so if someone is allergic to nuts they cant eat the bread etc made from that flour

 

[Libby]

That is very true but I am lucky in that it doesn't make me ill it just unbalances my blood levels and immune system for a while

Gluten free flour is often made from almonds so if someone is allergic to nuts they cant eat the bread etc made from that flour

My Nan was diagnosed around 2005-ish and it was a ****ing nightmare trying to go out anywhere for food. Loads of restaurants have specific menus now and there's a lot more understanding of the contamination risks too.

 

[duggie2000]

My Nan was diagnosed around 2005-ish and it was a ****ing nightmare trying to go out anywhere for food. Loads of restaurants have specific menus now and there's a lot more understanding of the contamination risks too.

My sister in law has something I think is called Hashimoto's Disease and if she eats anything with Gluten she would have the runs and throw up at the same time so she really suffers

 

[Archers Road]

Sorry only just seen this.

Like I said, if you use a free health service there should be no compo, if you want insurance go private. Lot's of injustices in life, most people have to suck it up and get on with it, much like getting sent to the front line against your wishes.

It’s not a free Health Service, it belongs to the people because the people pay for it through National Insurance. I for one have been paying in since 1977. Happy to let @Sucky have my free drugs though, I think he’s changed his medication and needs to get back on the ganja asap.

 

[FosseFilberto]

It’s not a free Health Service, it belongs to the people because the people pay for it through National Insurance. I for one have been paying in since 1977. Happy to let @Sucky have my free drugs though, I think he’s changed his medication and needs to get back on the ganja asap.

Played in a football tournament in Denmark in 1989 and got chatting to a Danish bar owner who was whinging about their basic income tax rate, which was a lot higher than the UK at the time ... he then shrugged and said "but nobody has to wait for an operation in Denmark" ... no Private Health Care needed - an adequately funded State system instead ... not sure if it is still the same over there tbf...