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Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    First team to do back to back since us in 2012.
     
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  2. brb

    brb CR250

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    In regards to City, I don't really see what can happen to them that will affect them much, unless the owners desert them?

    Even if they put them in the bottom league, L2, they just do a Glasgow Rangers. Completely pointless penalty to someone like that.

    If it's a financial penalty well I assume it will just be peanuts to someone like City's owners, no?
     
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  3. Toonitus

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    Absolutely nothing happening to them would be fantastic. The drooling mob will be crushed.
     
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  4. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    There aren't that many who have dipped as far as league one have got back out. Once they free fall through the bottom of the championship, they're in trouble and that parachute is no longer an advantage.

    Charlton, Bolton, Reading, Wigan, Huddersfield, Blackpool and now Birmingham.

    Ipswich being one, obviously.

    Fair play also to Sheff Wednesday for getting back out of league 1.
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Financially, anything is peanuts to City's owners as they are owned by Abu Dhabi.

    If they did get relegated to the championship or league 1, then I would say most of their players would leave.

    Can't see many Del Piero's amongst that lot.
     
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  6. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Yeah, it's going to be great when every club in the Premier league is owned by oil emirates or billionaire Yanks making up their own rules, it'll be so good. I genuinely can't wait to see City v Arsenal played in Las Vegas at midnight on a Wednesday under lights.

    Or Liverpool v Everton in Dubai with no one there.

    Awesome.
     
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  7. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Why wouldn't it be?

    20 clubs playing football...
     
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  8. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    And there you have it.

    TV clapper football, **** the supporters.

    It would be crap.

    That you can't see the potential consequences is actually ****ing sad.
     
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  9. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Want REAL FFP? ... simples ... every club in the Prem restricted to £100 million spend per transfer window ... time to level the playing field and counter the concept of the richest being able to buy success ...

    ... anybody against doesn't really want footballing Fair Play ... they want the distinct advantage that comes with wealth







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  10. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    So Fat Ange reckons he always wins something in his second year at a club

    might have to have an Avi bet with him on that
     
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  11. brb

    brb CR250

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    I wouldn't expect them to keep any of their first team players if they were dropped to L1, but they would still have the financial clout to outspend any team down there, I just can't see how any penalty can harm them. Much like any penalty didn't harm Glasgow Rangers when they got booted out.

    I think the only way you could bring shame on them is to remove all their trophies, but again as a supporter who would want an asterisk against their name as the winners in place of Abu Dhabi, last club that did that was Liverpool during covid, the pure shame of it. <whistle>
     
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    Tv clapper football or pay £80 to watch a Spurs game, choices, choices lol.
     
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    Actually if City lost all their trophies, I could see @Sucky happy to play the asterisk collecting team, bit like collecting pokemon. #Pepemon
     
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  14. FosseFilberto

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    <laugh>
     
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    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Thing is - Citeh didn't win their trophies because their players were all taking performance enhancing substances - they won their titles because they managed to assemble the best football team in the league... because they had the money to do so ... exactly the same criteria as has happened throughout the history of the game in this country ... every ****ing team that ever won anything - particularly those having sustained success over a long period - have spending power to thank ...

    FFP and PSR aren't protecting the integrity of the game - it never really had any - guess what? the rich clubs win stuff, surprise, surprise - those measures only serve to surpress the chances of newbies being able to gatecrash the party ...
     
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    haslam Well-Known Member

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    Agree with pretty much all of this.
     
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  17. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome
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    Lets be real. The financials in football are getting ridiculous, not to much because of transfer fees, but because of wages and agents fees, which do not get anywhere near the amount of publicity as transfer fees.
    Oh this player cost £100m, okay, well, he is also getting 400k a week and his agent pocketed £15m out of the deal aswell.
    All the problems with football stem from the fact that players are being paid too much and agents are basically leeches, just there to suck money out of the game and into their pockets.
    The £100m that a club get for a player, yes thats a lot, but ultimately, the club who received that money will spend it on the club, most notably on players, so that money then gets injected back into the game one way or another.
    Players wages and agents fees just get pocketed by one person (the player and the agent).
    Why do players need to get paid 400k a week? Is £150k a week not sufficient for someone to live on ffs?
    And agents....like I said, they exist purely to **** stir and skim off the top of every transaction.
    And who suffers for this, just the fans, they're the ones who get their match tickets doubled in price, they are the ones who now have to pay £80 for a ****ing football jersey, the ones who have to pay £3.60 for a cup of tea inside the stadium.
    This is why I have only been to half a dozen games in the last ten years, where as before I would go to that many games in a season. I refuse to do it. I like football a lot, but there are things I'd rather spend my money on.
     
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  18. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    the only reason there are agents is because the players were always getting ****ed over, having agents is the only reason they get 'paid their due'. Are they worth it? No, but that's the way it is with commericalised TV sports.
     
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  19. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome
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    No, but its gone from the players getting ****ed over, to the fans getting ****ed over.
    All agents have done is switched the victims, and filled their pockets in the meantime.
     
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  20. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I can't blame the agents for getting what they can tbh, fault lies with the people in charge. honestly, I think that's what makes Tony Bloom at Brighton so good, he's a pro poker player.
     
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