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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Just sounds like a few of the men with grubby hands are a little twitchy to me.

    If the rules on sponsorship are ruled illegal what will you think then? Separate to the main case but nobody is talking about it.
     
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  2. Sucky

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    I think if man city want to play in this league they need to respect it's laws and rules.

    I also think they should be expelled from football if guilty.

    Which we all know they are cos you don't sue the league to change the rules you didn't break do ya <laugh>
     
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  3. Toonitus

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    Yeah but if the rules are ruled illegal that all goes out the window mate. They'll need new rules and everyone will take the piss
     
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  4. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    Are we allowed to sue the police because we think the rules are illegal and we don’t like adhering to them?

    I'd like to drive faster for a start. And maybe buzz a few more cyclists.
     
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  5. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    So flounting the rules for over a decade then when it all comes on top you sue the league because they are about to hand you your arse.

    You don't see the wrong in this <laugh>

    You pinning your hopes on city's lawyers I get that.

    It's gay af but I get it
     
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  6. Sucky

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    <laugh> in a nutshell
     
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  7. haslam

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    I think if you want to take a hard line to every club that has broken the rules then most of the teams in the league would get expelled for tapping up players over the years. There needs to be an assessment of whether the laws were reasonable and then if they were, and they were broken, then a reasonable sanction should be imposed.
     
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  8. Sucky

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    The rest of the prem are not under investigation for any of the above.

    But yes continue
     
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  9. Toonitus

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    Unfortunately those rules are legal.
     
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  10. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Says who?

    City's lawyers haven't tried bending those ones yet have they?
     
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  11. Toonitus

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    The law basically.
     
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  12. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    You mean like the laws of the premier League that city have circumvented and are now suing to change?

    Fuking lolz bro
     
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  13. haslam

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    Kind of yes actually. There are times when technically a law can be enforced but it shouldn't be and then if you suffer unduly as a result you can successfully sue as a result (like administrative laws that are deemed under the rules of Wednesbury unreasonability).

    It's a question of legal moralism. There are plenty of laws which don't get enforced because they're morally dubious or insensible but generally criminal ones are indeed enforced - not always though.

    It's correct to question whether a law is moral rather than just subservient obedience otherwise you get people walking innocents to gas chambers because the law told them to. The main issue there though is that in most situations (like City and the one you mention) people are questioning the law because they don't like it rather than for a more moral reason.
     
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  14. Toonitus

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    No there's rules some people make and theres the law.
     
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    Nah you were just found guilty and paid a fine mate.
     
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    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    Yet the rules of the competition City have freely entered into, that used to be perfectly OK when they applied to everyone else, are not?

    OK.
     
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  17. Sucky

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    City could learn a thing or two off us.

    Instead of changing the rules just before getting the book thrown at them <laugh>
     
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    I'd agree enitrely to be honest. It's right for it to be tested as they should get the chance to argue their case but if they did break the rules then it's only fair they're accountable for it. Think most reasonable football fans think the same.

    Whether the rules are good rules is a separate matter.
     
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    I guess that very much depends on what happens next!
     
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  20. Toonitus

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    I've noticed this ' the clubs voted for the rules ' but they didn't all vote for them and I believe city sat out the vote for sponsorship rules specifically.

    Regardless like I say even if 20 people out of 20 people make a rule it won't make it legal.

    Just be prepared to consider this.
     
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