Election 2024

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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No problem mate, rational post by you.

I juust get pissed off when we can allow blackholes when it suits the banks and financial money men, and governments, but when things need fixing it's big no, no. I just lose my rational with it. Let's get building these prisons, because at the moment everyone is taking the piss out of us. I just hope when this budget comes in October the big pisstake companies and wealthy people are going to be clouted, hard. I really don't get though why we are so focused on the £21B blackhole, it's like it's being used as a lever to fook us over...is this to appease the rich so they don't fook off out the country, which is what was said if Labour get in, it's double edge sword and always those at the lower end of the scale that get battered with it, some people are still trying to get over food price rises.

That's an interesting point, and basically all of that (including building new hospitals, prisons, railway, airports, defence spending) should have been done post-2008 and the last crash when interest rates were buttons. It's called pump priming and was basically the way FDR led the USA out of the Great Depression. Many economists have said at the time, and have been proved right now, that austerity was a ****ing choice, not a necessity, and apart from the apocalyptic levels of poverty and destitution it caused in areas up here in the North and Scotland, it only made the bankers and the money markets richer. And no, that wealth didn't trickle down - it went to the Cayman Islands.

The problem now about a great infrastructure programme is funding it without borrowing at ruinous rates, and as we're all now about to painfully learn, Labour will do that by soaking pensioners and inheritance that those middle-earners paying astronomical rents and mortgages were relying upon in their future planning. As Suckly said further up, I get a feeling Starmer has had that tap on the shoulder from 'them' reminding him that they, and their offshore mega-fortunes, will not being throwing their credit cards onto the table to pay for the meal.

Winter is coming. :(
 
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Someone tried to kill Trump again, hiding in bushes with an AK47 and scope...

They missed!...

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that's ^ a gif btw lol

Hmm. Was watching CNN before around 8pm when it all started unfolding. So far, there is no evidence whatsoever the shots fired were at Trump, but the FBI has said they're treating it as an assassination attempt. I'm sure Trump has his ketchup for his ear on hand again (though, his wig unravelled in the last one and we all saw his bald pate as he was bundled into the back of the FBI van - no way did he plan for that to happen). :emoticon-0176-smoke
 
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Did they ever tell us the motive of the first gunman?

By that did they find anything at his home or that of his parents, did they find anything in social media that he might have posted to express his reason.
 
Did they ever tell us the motive of the first gunman?

By that did they find anything at his home or that of his parents, did they find anything in social media that he might have posted to express his reason.

Just that he was MAGA and his family were republicans. Every school kid who knew him said he was well-known for his political views.

This election has shades of '68 in that the US is now fully polarised - there is no in-between or neutral space, just Trump or not Trump. The Western world is ****ed, and Putin is smirking and stroking his cat. Liberal democracies will die in this dark enlightenment, and China and Russia have won without firing a shot. That suits some - but we won't know what we've lost till it's gone.

But cheer up - there's cracking new series of Slow Horses on. :biggrin:
 
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Just that he was MAGA and his family were republicans. Every school kid who knew him said he was well-known for his political views.

This election has shades of '68 in that the US is now fully polarised - there is no in-between or neutral space, just Trump or not Trump. The Western world is ****ed, and Putin is smirking and stroking his cat. Liberal democracies will die in this dark enlightenment, and China and Russia have won without firing a shot. That suits some - but we won't know what we've lost till it's gone.

But cheer up - there's cracking new series of Slow Horses on. :biggrin:

I'm not understanding, if he was MAGA a slogan Trump uses and his parents were Republicans, what was his motive, was one found?
 
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I'm not understanding, if he was MAGA a slogan Trump uses and his parents were Republicans, what was his motive, was one found?

Mate. there's no understanding the MAGA cult. I did have a tweet from Bannon bookmarked from about 2 months before Pennsylvania where he was talking on on some MAGA crank site with Alex Jones that it would be the greatest thing for the election if Trump was assassinated and it galvinised their supporters into action. We are truly through the looking glass with these cranks. :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
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Why do Trump supporters keep trying to kill him? They're all dislodged I'm ****ing telling you. Unhinged, deranged, mentatlists. :eek:
 
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I'm not understanding, if he was MAGA a slogan Trump uses and his parents were Republicans, what was his motive, was one found?

I thought his political views were unclear..a registered republican but had donated to democrat organisations or something? Dunno I'm possibly misremembering.
 
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I thought his political views were unclear..a registered republican but had donated to democrat organisations or something? Dunno I'm possibly misremembering.

No idea mate. Not sure what his political views are, but then again I don't know what Kamala Harris' views are either on a whole wide range of topics, I can't be arsed to read up on them. Only things I know about Trump is that he once tried to overthrow a democratic vote, and he likes rubbing shoulders with Putin and that guy from North Korea. All I see is both sides including supporters being very devisive - one side is a bunch of lunatics, and the other side drives people towards that bunch of lunatics - you've only got to look around this whole forum to see that, hate creates more hate, but not neccesarily always in the direction someone intended. I said a couple of years back you need to ignore Trump, if you don't ignore him and say things about him, he creates attention, I do partly blame the democrats for some of the mess we see today, as well as the media, this is supposed to be a world super power, scary thought. Stupid part of this is all these missiles the UK want to give Ukraine that the USA are sitting on the fence over, well I hear the Americans control the software to it, anyway off to buy some popcorn for the moment when I say I told you stupid fookers to ignore him lol (not meaning you btw). It's just fooked up entertainment viewing to me with the occasional I told you so.
 
I'm not understanding, if he was MAGA a slogan Trump uses and his parents were Republicans, what was his motive, was one found?

Asking -unidentified poster- about this is about as useful as stopping a random person on the bus and asking them about it tbh.

Completely one sided, drenched in internet theories and a sprinkle of nonsense on top.
 
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Asking Milk about this is about as useful as stopping a random person on the bus and asking them about it tbh.

Completely one sided, drenched in internet theories and a sprinkle of nonsense on top.

I think I can believe that someone would take a pop shot to the ear to improve his campaign, because I agree they are lunatics, but to give your own life is the bit that don't stack up for me (the shooter that is)....maybe they really are that crazy, but my brain trying to relate to that, well even I'm not that nuts.
 
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I think I can believe that someone would take a pop shot to the ear to improve his campaign, because I agree they are lunatics, but to give your own life is the bit that don't stack up for me (the shooter that is)....maybe they really are that crazy, but my brain trying to relate to that, well even I'm not that nuts.

We are sitting here discussing the idea that first, Donald Trump a narcassist, would risk his own life by placing a sniper rifle in the hands on any person on the planet with the idea they would graze his head with a bullet. Would you do that? I wouldn't.

Then, the second part of this hairbrained scheme, is to sacrifice a teenager to the political Gods.

All of this results in a 2% bumb in Trumps popularity and has so far had a neglible impact on the elections.

-unidentified poster- got tons of the facts wrong in his original post to you anyway, he's citing months old media reports which came about around 15 minutes after the event.
 
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We are sitting here discussing the idea that first, Donald Trump a narcassist, would risk his own life by placing a sniper rifle in the hands on any person on the planet with the idea they would graze his head with a bullet. Would you do that? I wouldn't.

Then, the second part of this hairbrained scheme, is to sacrifice a teenager to the political Gods.

All of this results in a 2% bumb in Trumps popularity and has so far had a neglible impact on the elections.

Milk got tons of the facts wrong in his original post to you anyway, he's citing months old media reports which came about around 15 minutes after the event.

Yeah your first sentence presses that switch in my head that said I agree with your logic here, hadn't thought of it like that.