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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Only Sunak (I think) was pro Brexit and Truss never had the time
    The likes of Corbyn and Starmer wanted another vote on it !
    The Tories lacked the will to take advantage of what Brexit could deliver to the country as the cabinet were split on it and they couldn’t agree
    If they’d given the job of actually delivering Brexit to Nigel Farage we might be a lot better off all round
     
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  2. RedorDead

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    Corbin voted for Brexit
     
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  3. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Farage is good at righting wish lists, but actually delivering things is completely different. When pressed how he’d achieve things he doesn’t have an answer and just gets defensive. He’s good at setting an agenda but not actually delivering it.
     
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  4. Angelicnumber16

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    Only Sunak (I think) was pro Brexit and Truss never had the time
    The likes of Corbyn and Starmer wanted another vote on it
    The Tories lacked the will to take advantage of what Brexit could deliver to the country as the cabinet were split on it
    If they’d given the job to Nigel Farage we might all be better off today
     
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  5. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Didn’t know that
     
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  6. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Well the Tories did next to nothing with the opportunity, so can he have done any worse ?
     
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  7. RedorDead

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    I may be wrong but was told he was for Brexit but can’t find where it was reported.
     
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    The Liberals have lots of lists which will never be actioned For a Fair Deal - Liberal Democrats Manifesto 2024 - Liberal Democrats (libdems.org.uk) You can't deliver, if you do not have power.
     
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  9. bcfcredandwhite

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    Yes - that’s why he was tactically silent on the topic - because Brexit transcended party politics - he was happy to watch the Tories rip themselves apart over it whilst knowing that the same could happen in his party.
     
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    I realise that, however when pressed he just gets defensive and doesn’t give any answers. Some of his suggestions I quite like, but they’d need to explain how they’d achieve them before I’d even consider voting for them.
     
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    I think of Mr Farage as being combative rather than defensive. Mr Starmer on the other hand's campaign was based upon say little, explain less to gain a victory handed to Labour by a **** show of a government.
     
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    and there you have it the man at the top comes up with ideas listens to his subordinates and picks out the tasty bits before announcing his wish's .......... then the party has the job of arranging the timescale and content!
     
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  13. AshtonRed

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    Sounds more like a Business than a political party……….
     
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  14. realred1952

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    Nearly always someone at the top of the pyramid .... Kamikaze has ideas as do his ministers or steal basics from other parties ..... all minced up at cabinet meetings and he is the mouth piece that spews them out ... the ministers then have to implement...................
     
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