Did you hear that stat on the BBC? Harry Kane has had one touch in the box in the 180 minutes of the last 2 Euro finals ...
Only led for 34 minutes across the whole tournament only won 2 out of 7 games in the 90 Only 7 goals in 7 games all points to one thing tbh meh
I think Potter is a club manager as well. Significantly, Spain's winning manager had coached Spain through the age groups. As did Southgate, of course. It's a different type to be international manager.
I like the Spanish managers message to his players to go out and enjoy yourselves. Spain were a joy to watch.
A flash of brilliance from Palmer got us back in it, but in all honesty we were 2nd best all night. In the long history of England heartbreak, tonight doesn’t rank very high at all. The best team won. That doesn’t always happen but tonight it did. ****s
There's some on our board calling for Lampard FFS. Clearly time for a change but God help us if we go for fat Frank. I do fear that might be in for a bit of a wake up call and through our disappointment are at risk of underrating what we've done in recent years. Under Southgate the team got us dreaming again and getting to the business end of tournaments has become almost normalised but there's no guarantee that'll continue. We all want us to be more attacking with the talent we've got but I feel like some people think we just need to go all out attack and we'll just play teams off the park regularly but football rarely works like that.
You summed it for me mate. I just think everyone generally has all the answers but we never achieve the dream. I don't even remember us lifting the 1966 world cup, I remember snippets of things people said at the time, like the ball didn't cross the line, nigh on 60 years of nothing, and people think that's suddenly going to change lol. I'm amazed we've made the last two EURO finals, trouble is we are turning into the Newcastle United of football, always the fooking runners up.
Spot on mate. Tonight very similar to last Euros tbh. We did extremely well and it feels like a big chance missed but ultimately lost narrowly to the best team in tournament so can't have that many complaints really. Individually either isn't that hard to take but putting both together it's extremely disappointing and hard to take. Let's be honest mate Saints winning a wembley final and England winning a tournament was never gonna happen in the same year. Probs could have retired from following football had it happened but the football gods obviously want me to suffer more.
I'm not going to argue with the overall sentiment but we scored after about 10 mins against Serbia so surely led for 80+ minutes in that game alone.
Hmmm... a little bit of attempted turd polishing in the air methinks ... time for a reality check and some home truths ... We rode our luck in the undoubtedly poorer half of the draw in this tournament - but we did turn up in the semi-final to beat the Dutch ... but realistically both us and the Dutch would have struggled to get further than the Q/Fs had we been in the other half of the draw ... As such, we probably 'achieved' the best realistic outcome - getting to the final (despite struggling most of the way en route) to get beat by whoever got there from the much stronger side... Southgate? - achiever or underachiever? - for me the latter - given that he has had the best generation of talent at his disposal but has opted to neuter it by either not playing it in it's natural club position or has omitted it in favour of players that he has an irrational loyalty or dependency on, irrespective of form and, at times, plain logic or common sense ... There are lots of reasons to be optimistic about the future of English International football - provided we appoint the right man - and let him impose his own ideas and philosophy - hopefully an attacking philosophy like the current manager of Spain - not reckless all out attacking - their defensive play was formidable but not paramount - but the emphasis was on getting the ball to the creative talent as quickly as possible and empowering that creative talent with opportunity and belief ... 7 games 7 wins - speaks for itself ...
I don't think anyone is going to argue that England played well in the tournament or that we deserved to beat Spain - either on the day or overall. I don't agree with the idea we'd not have got anywhere on the other side of the draw though. Germany and Spain looked good and that's it. France looked worse than us, Portugal had flashes but not much, Belgium were lucky to get through their group, I'm just not sure who all these better teams are that would have knocked us out. If anything the tournament was very low on quality and most teams stuttered their way through it, we weren't the exception, Spain were.
Each to their own opinion, of course ... but in mine, every team you have mentioned would have cantered through our group on their performances ... which we certainly did not ...
Spain beat the three favourites which is kind of impressive maybe if you’re into that sort of thing. Hope the Basque separatists bomb Madrid and there’s a rice famine. Oooh we pass the ball really well and have loads of pace out wide. Pathetic. It was our time to win it on Hitler’s turf and they should have appreciated that.
