A new dawn has arose, let’s hope everything changes for the better and in 5 years time we will be proud of our country again.
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Well, yes. When you vote, you aren't voting for the party you want to form the government or for who you want to be Prime Minister. You're voting for who you want to be MP for your constituency.Lib Dem 12% = 71 seats
Reform 15% = 4 seats
Call that democracy - PAH!!
Bart
Well, yes. When you vote, you aren't voting for the party you want to form the government or for who you want to be Prime Minister. You're voting for who you want to be MP for your constituency.
That’s absolute PISH mate.Well, yes. When you vote, you aren't voting for the party you want to form the government or for who you want to be Prime Minister. You're voting for who you want to be MP for your constituency.
That’s absolute PISH mate.
This result is not democratic, and based largely on tactical voting.
I repeat, Democracy - PAH!!
Time for PR, but Labour/Tory pact will never allow it.
Bart
Committee:-Presume by PR you mean Proportional Representation = government by committee, a recipe for never getting anything done, in my opinion. PAH, to use your term.
I remember when we beat the mags in 2016 and they bleated on about having 60% possession and 10 corners.PS - Starmer has got less votes than Corbyn did in 2019 FFS!!
Democracy = PAH!!
Bart



Would you have preferred 71 seats for reform?Lib Dem 12% = 71 seats
Reform 15% = 4 seats
Call that democracy - PAH!!
Bart
I’m not disagreeing with you mate, I just hope and pray that this is an improvement on theNo dawn. All our major parties are out of the same mould. They all believe in big government and high taxes.
Welcome to the dark ages mk2.
We’ll stick everything that is going crap on here mate, that way we all have a stick to beat theYep,more dark ages,just of a different variance. Anyone who thinks anything is going to be "better"...whatever that means...in 5 years time is completely deluded.
The problems we face here go back for decades and can never be fixed. It's far too late. We'll be sat here in 5 years time with no improvement in our outlook or our prospects. This country is ****ed.....very,very poor leadership and lack of honesty,committment and integrity for well over 60 years has seen to that.
It's a bit like when Donald and Methven came into our club......chancers and spivs on short term makes....that's been the UK Parliament for decades....after yesterday,nothing has really changed,only the personnel.

I always wondered how to decide national or local if your favoured local wasn’t in your national party . I now think go national , because the local person should still be working for me and my locality even if in Westminster oppositionWell, yes. When you vote, you aren't voting for the party you want to form the government or for who you want to be Prime Minister. You're voting for who you want to be MP for your constituency.
Boy am I now depressedYep,more dark ages,just of a different variance. Anyone who thinks anything is going to be "better"...whatever that means...in 5 years time is completely deluded.
The problems we face here go back for decades and can never be fixed. It's far too late. We'll be sat here in 5 years time with no improvement in our outlook or our prospects. This country is ****ed.....very,very poor leadership and lack of honesty,committment and integrity for well over 60 years has seen to that.
It's a bit like when Donald and Methven came into our club......chancers and spivs on short term makes....that's been the UK Parliament for decades....after yesterday,nothing has really changed,only the personnel.
I fear you are probably right, but I am crossing fingers and toes.