Election 2024

[PINKIE]

I was joking about the bottle lol.

One thing just to add about using online betting. When it's cash do you feel differently about how much you bet? Online it's not tangible so more prone to addiction? I genuinely don't know, I wonder if there's any stats on this.

Reason I mention it is because I heard something the other day about how ppl seem to accept the creeping increases in their weekly shop bcos it's just a number and a tap on the card, whereas ppl would perhaps kick off more if they were pulling hard cash out of their pocket.

I think it’s that, and the things like free bets once you sign up and start adding money to your online account. Payout paid as more bets and what looks like every device they can think of to keep people hooked.

 

[Welshie]

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1806018124770431154

Insane poll.

 

[Schlem Boogerman]

Pretty much this for me, I just mind my own when I see people doing things that are seen as not being healthy for the mind, body or soul. As long as they aren’t vulnerable people and fully in control of their actions, what they do is up to them. I go through stages of them all, probably because of the way I’m wired up.

Rarely I’ll go through stages of drinking. I’ll smoke a little bit of cannabis at times although that’s very rare now. I gamble fairly regularly but even that I go through stages of not placing a bet for months.

If that goes wrong it’s on me, I know the risks. I’m a grown man and would fully accept the consequences.

Do you though?
This is my issue with gambling. People in general don't know what they're doing.

 

[brb]

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1806018124770431154

Insane poll.

I don't really worry what the polls say, it's actually what people do that counts.

I've voted and voted Labour, not heard anyone else say on here if they've voted yet, and how is that compared to the trend in the polls?

 

[PINKIE]

I don't really worry what the polls say, it's actually what people do that counts.

I've voted and voted Labour, not heard anyone else say on here if they've voted yet, and how is that compared to the trend in the polls?

Yeah I dunno what percentage makes up the postal vote, but it has to be a tiny fraction surely.

It does all come down to what people do on 4th July. And for Labour they need to quash that narrative that it's a done deal, and make sure people get out and put the X in the box.

 

[Archers Road]

What I don't get right, when I was about 16/17 years old, I worked with someone who put bets on the horses most weeks, I remember a couple of times going in the bookie shop with him. He'd scribble some very little nonsense involving numbers on a scrap of paper, hand it to the cashier and we'd be away. No names, no addresses, no personal details at all and everything cash....so how the fook do they know all the MP's that have put a bet on?

There must be a lot snitches out there.

People bet on their phones now mate. Not hard to trace that

 

[brb]

Yeah I dunno what percentage makes up the postal vote, but it has to be a tiny fraction surely.

It does all come down to what people do on 4th July. And for Labour they need to quash that narrative that it's a done deal, and make sure people get out and put the X in the box.

I'm not sure I'm completely happy doing a postal vote, especially with the delay in post these days, and how do you even know it's reached it's destination. It is clear to anyone seeing it that it's a postal vote, depends how much I trust the post office suppose...and I'm not as trusting as I use to be because I have had stuff go missing. Probably need to go back to voting in person, but not looked up how I go about that.

 

[PINKIE]

People bet on their phones now mate. Not hard to trace that

This is the other problem with betting. Apps pinging at you reminding you to bet, or encourage you to add more money to your account, get 'free' bets, take advantage of 'deals' etc etc. All designed to sink their hooks deeper into people and keep them spending.

Gone are the days where you had to walk into a bookies, fill out a slip and hand over cash.

 

[Welshie]

I don't really worry what the polls say, it's actually what people do that counts.

I've voted and voted Labour, not heard anyone else say on here if they've voted yet, and how is that compared to the trend in the polls?

I read all the polls, but just cos I find them interesting. You always have to view it as a general trend, which is why Spurf pissed me off that one time. When he cited one singular poll he liked and pretended it was gospel.

In general, the trend is Tories down, Labour holding strong at around 40% and Reform and Liberals gaining ground.

Since the day of the election calling, I have seen almost no trend of Green gaining any further support.

 

[PINKIE]

I'm not sure I'm completely happy doing a postal vote, especially with the delay in post these days, and how don you even know it's reached it's destination. It is clear to anyone seeing it that it's a postal vote, depends how much I trust the post office suppose...and I'm not as trusting as I use to be because I have had stuff go missing. Probably need to go back to voting in person, but not looked up how I go about that.

I know it's prone to errors and manipulation, but I would introduce an online voting system.

We do all of our banking online these days, so surely there's a way to make it secure ?

You'd probably get a 80%+ turnout if it was online.

 

[brb]

I read all the polls, but just cos I find them interesting. You always have to view it as a general trend, which is why Spurf pissed me off that one time. When he cited one singular poll he liked and pretended it was gospel.

In general, the trend is Tories down, Labour holding strong at around 40% and Reform and Liberals gaining ground.

Since the day of the election calling, I have seen almost no trend of Green gaining any further support.

Yeah it feels like people are falling out of love with the Greens. I wonder if they pick up the blame for some of these action protests.

 

[Welshie]

I know it's prone to errors and manipulation, but I would introduce an online voting system.

We do all of our banking online these days, so surely there's a way to make it secure ?

You'd probably get a 80%+ turnout if it was online.

Labour have done this before (I voted in two of em) and there was lots of talk about it being misused.

 

[brb]

I know it's prone to errors and manipulation, but I would introduce an online voting system.

We do all of our banking online these days, so surely there's a way to make it secure ?

You'd probably get a 80%+ turnout if it was online.

Yeah I'd be happy to do an online vote. At least then there is a digital record.

 

[Archers Road]

This is the other problem with betting. Apps pinging at you reminding you to bet, or encourage you to add more money to your account, get 'free' bets, take advantage of 'deals' etc etc. All designed to sink their hooks deeper into people and keep them spending.

Gone are the days where you had to walk into a bookies, fill out a slip and hand over cash.

Yeah, for anyone with a problem it must be a nightmare. Though you can restrict yourself on most sites.

I used to enjoy the social side of an afternoon in the bookies, playing the horse at Sedgefield and Plumpton, seeing the regular faces. That’s all gone too now. Most people in betting shops seem to be playing the machines, standing in front of them like robots.

 

[Welshie]

Yeah it feels like people are falling out of love with the Greens. I wonder if they pick up the blame for some of these action protests.

I dunno if it's falling out of love or they've just hit their ceiling, they're competing against Labour for serious left voters. There's not a single centre right person in this country who would vote Green.

Then you have Liberals who are right now running left of Labour, then Reform who are right of the Tories.

What do Greens have to grab? There's a tiny portion of people left who would vote for them

 

[remembercolinlee]

Everyone crying over MP's gambling, you really are all a bunch of hypocrites. Quite happy for it to destroy lives though.

I don't gamble cos I know I am too obsessive as a person and agree it can destructive to many ... Mrs RCL says in years to come people will look back at these years like we do at smoking ads in the 50s and 60s.

My issue isn't with these ****ers gambling its that they used inside knowledge to line their own pockets. That's the same (to me) as MPs lobbying for industries or companies where they or their family/mates have a financial stake in.

 

[PINKIE]

Labour have done this before (I voted in two of em) and there was lots of talk about it being misused.

I think one of them was the leadership election. I was part of that. Sign up to the Labour party for a fiver or whatever it was and get your one member one vote.

That was prone to loads of people who weren't labour supporters signing up and trying to influence the outcome.

But in a GE, surely your one vote would simply count towards the overall total

Unless you mean something else ?

 

[Big Ern]

I dunno if it's falling out of love or they've just hit their ceiling, they're competing against Labour for serious left voters. There's not a single centre right person in this country who would vote Green.

Then you have Liberals who are right now running left of Labour, then Reform who are right of the Tories.

What do Greens have to grab? There's a tiny portion of people left who would vote for them

Not going to get any corporate backing either.

 

[Welshie]

I think one of them was the leadership election. I was part of that. Sign up to the Labour party for a fiver or whatever it was and get your one member one vote.

That was prone to loads of people who weren't labour supporters signing up and trying to influence the outcome.

But in a GE, surely your one vote would simply count towards the overall total

Unless you mean something else ?

No I mean it was accused of being hacked or something.

Russia stuff as usual

 

[PINKIE]

I dunno if it's falling out of love or they've just hit their ceiling, they're competing against Labour for serious left voters. There's not a single centre right person in this country who would vote Green.

Then you have Liberals who are right now running left of Labour, then Reform who are right of the Tories.

What do Greens have to grab? There's a tiny portion of people left who would vote for them

It could be a case of people knowing that their Green vote is unlikely to elect a candidate, unless you're in Brighton. And being so determined to make sure the Tories don't get in, that they are going to vote with one of the main parties.