Transfer Rumours Summer 2024

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tomw24 said:
If Brighton want him I suggest we ****ing outbid them.

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I'd have said that I hope that PL interest wouldn't give him a big head, but it appears to be too late for that.
 
Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) said:
But we don't know they are good enough unless we sign them, as we are buying youngsters that have never played mens football or at least not at this level.

Lavia - Regular starter
Tino - Regular starter
Bazunu - Regular starter
Edozie - Rotation option, 49 apps in 2 seasons
Larios - Not really played, injuries not helped.
Charles - 32 apps in first season
SAA - signed at 16, made debut but not had much chance since.

We spent almost £50m on that lot and only Baz had ever played mens football. That is taking a massive risk and if that isn't giving youth a chance then I don't know what is!
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You aren't wrong of course but I'm going to be a little pedantic as I would say that "Giving youth a chance," in football parlance, implies youth that you have nurtured and helped improve rather than recently bought from City or Chelsea as nearly finished articles. It's true that a young player looking for opportunities elsewhere is likely to see us as a team that will showcase them. I don't think the same is true for our own homegrown talent any more, and considering the reputation we once had for doing just that, it's a sorry state of affairs - and an expensive one.
 
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hotbovril said:
You aren't wrong of course but I'm going to be a little pedantic as I would say that "Giving youth a chance," in football parlance, implies youth that you have nurtured and helped improve rather than recently bought from City or Chelsea as nearly finished articles. It's true that a young player looking for opportunities elsewhere is likely to see us as a team that will showcase them. I don't think the same is true for our own homegrown talent any more, and considering the reputation we once had for doing just that, it's a sorry state of affairs - and an expensive one.
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This is what I was trying to say!
 
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hotbovril said:
You aren't wrong of course but I'm going to be a little pedantic as I would say that "Giving youth a chance," in football parlance, implies youth that you have nurtured and helped improve rather than recently bought from City or Chelsea as nearly finished articles. It's true that a young player looking for opportunities elsewhere is likely to see us as a team that will showcase them. I don't think the same is true for our own homegrown talent any more, and considering the reputation we once had for doing just that, it's a sorry state of affairs - and an expensive one.
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Yeah I'd agree with that. I thought the conversation started with reference as to whether we are a good destination for young players looking for a club that will give them a chance. I kind of feel like this is partly why our own young players have struggled to break through, as we keep blocking the pathway by signing other 18-20 year olds and playing them.
 
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hotbovril said:
You aren't wrong of course but I'm going to be a little pedantic as I would say that "Giving youth a chance," in football parlance, implies youth that you have nurtured and helped improve rather than recently bought from City or Chelsea as nearly finished articles. It's true that a young player looking for opportunities elsewhere is likely to see us as a team that will showcase them. I don't think the same is true for our own homegrown talent any more, and considering the reputation we once had for doing just that, it's a sorry state of affairs - and an expensive one.
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I wouldn't say so. "Giving young players a chance" is slightly different from "giving academy players a chance". These days, teams are buying young players from other teams all the time. So I think the phrase "giving young players a chance" no longer applies to just your own academy talents.
 
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tomw24 said:
I wouldn't say so. "Giving young players a chance" is slightly different from "giving academy players a chance". These days, teams are buying young players from other teams all the time. So I think the phrase "giving young players a chance" no longer applies to just your own academy talents.
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My understanding is that due to the larger clubs hoovering up much of the best young talent that it has been necessary to have a blended model that allows both our academy players to come through but also to allow us to bring in young talent that has been nurtured at other academies to play regular football and develop further and move on to the bigger clubs for decent fees.
 
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I think the Academy system is highlighting that nurture can only go so far and anyone we seemingly find who steps up with a bit of natural talent as a younger academy player has a Chelsea scout sitting outside their house.

However, it should be said that last time we got promoted the club made a huge thing about JWP, Shaw, Chambers & Stephens being new first team squad additions and I think it would go a long way to do something similar whilst the squad needs depth, to say Meghoma, SAA & Dibling are going to be part of the first team squads plan for the PL
 
tomw24 said:
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Can’t say many of the links so far are particularly inspiring. I get adding experience to the squad but unless a few are leaving we haven’t heard about yet we don’t have much space in the squad
 
Everton signing Tim Iroegbunam for £9m from Villa

Villa signing Ian Maatsen from Chelsea for £37.5m

Couple of other deals from the PL
 
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