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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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2% inflation target hit. OBR forecasts are showing big growth for the UK on the back of how Hunt and Sunak have turned it around.

Labour are being handed an economy on the rise and doing pretty damn good compared to the rest of Europe.

You wouldn’t think it on here. The excuses of ‘it will take the Labour government at least 5 years to sort the economy’ won’t wash now.


The economy is barely off life support, but that's only haslf the problem. National and personal debt is through the roof. Councils are on the verge of bankruptcy. Hosptals, schools, and all public services are seriously underfunded. All our essential services are run for profit, as a result of which our streets are full of homeless people, many with serious untreated mental health issues, our rivers are full of ****, our roads are full of potholes, and our streets are full of crime with not a cozzer in sight. Everything's ****ed mate, it'll take years to repair the damage these Tory ****s have done to our country. And they have the ****ing front to call themselves patriotic.
 
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Am I out of date because I thought Murdoch owned Sky and GB News which already employs Farage

Get out of bed the wrong side? <whistle>

I meant you don't see Farage as a commentator on SKY yet. Although I'm not sure on the Murdoch ownership control of SKY in the UK?
 
The economy is barely off life support, but that's only haslf the problem. National and personal debt is through the roof. Councils are on the verge of bankruptcy. Hosptals, schools, and all public services are seriously underfunded. All our essential services are run for profit, as a result of which our streets are full of homeless people, many with serious untreated mental health issues, our rivers are full of ****, our roads are full of potholes, and our streets are full of crime with not a cozzer in sight. Everything's ****ed mate, it'll take years to repair the damage these Tory ****s have done to our country. And they have the ****ing front to call themselves patriotic.

Where's the money coming from to fix it all seems to be the main question, although I expect the narrative from people like yourself to be Tories, Tories, Tories, without any actual substance on how we are going to fix the NHS and care homes. Then we have schools...public services....water, but yeah trust Labour and Starmer, because the Tories are thieving bastards is all we got to go on.
 
Where's the money coming from to fix it all seems to be the main question, although I expect the narrative from people like yourself to be Tories, Tories, Tories, without any actual substance on how we are going to fix the NHS and care homes. Then we have schools...public services....water, but yeah trust Labour and Starmer, because the Tories are thieving bastards is all we got to go on.


The incoming government will have to put up taxes obviously, but Starmer can’t say that because the Tory owned client media will ramp up the mentalness to 1000 decibels.

Especially as the media serves the interests of the rich, and it’s the rich who will have to pay. They can afford it though, they’ve been filling their boots while the rest of us have been struggling these last 14 years.

Remember when Peter Mandelson said he was “relaxed about people getting filthy rich”? The rest of the sentence was, “so long as they pay their taxes…”
 
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well on sky well out of date as he hasn't owned it for years .
GB news no idea who owns that nonsense

Yeah, I thought he'd sold it but wasn't sure how long back.

I must have my wires crossed somewhere because it was the former heads of Sky News Australia that own GB News.

It's all a big ****ing right wing shindig
 
The incoming government will have to put up taxes obviously, but Starmer can’t say that because the Tory owned client media will ramp up the mentalness to 1000 decibels.

Especially as the media serves the interests of the rich, and it’s the rich who will have to pay. They can afford it though, they’ve been filling their boots while the rest of us have been struggling these last 14 years.

Remember when Peter Mandelson said he was “relaxed about people getting filthy rich”? The rest of the sentence was, “so long as they pay their taxes…”

I agree with you, it's spot on. I never ever got putting taxes down my whole life, it just creates gimmicks and tax by some other form.

Hopefully Starmer gets long enough for it to all come together.

At least the thieving should stop, and you can't really put that on any SKY TV chart as income, and even if you could we would still never know the true cost of the financial drain that has gone into the pockets of those that own expensive yachts....so that in itself is a starting block to build back under Starmer.
 
The economy is barely off life support, but that's only haslf the problem. National and personal debt is through the roof. Councils are on the verge of bankruptcy. Hosptals, schools, and all public services are seriously underfunded. All our essential services are run for profit, as a result of which our streets are full of homeless people, many with serious untreated mental health issues, our rivers are full of ****, our roads are full of potholes, and our streets are full of crime with not a cozzer in sight. Everything's ****ed mate, it'll take years to repair the damage these Tory ****s have done to our country. And they have the ****ing front to call themselves patriotic.
Agree with most of that, but not all. Councils need more closely monitored. The amount of fraud and mismanagement of money that goes on with them is an issue that needs addressed. Instead, I’m seeing people push for the councils to have more freedom. It’s insane.
 
A multi-millionaire Muslim entrepreneur has donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to Reform UK.

Zia Yusuf, who co-founded a VIP concierge app called Velocity Black and later sold his stake for tens of millions of pounds, has said the UK has “completely lost control of our borders.”
 
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So today a certain party leader said that if they get control of the UK they would cancel our membership to the WEF?

now I’m not 100%, but the UK isn’t a member of the WEF.
 
A multi-millionaire Muslim entrepreneur has donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to Reform UK.

Zia Yusuf, who co-founded a VIP concierge app called Velocity Black and later sold his stake for tens of millions of pounds, has said the UK has “completely lost control of our borders.”


Interesting view from him, but he is free to donate to whichever political party he wants.
 
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That’s it. He’s won me around again.

I am now an unapologetic reformer. How can you not love this guy?



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A multi-millionaire Muslim entrepreneur has donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to Reform UK.

Zia Yusuf, who co-founded a VIP concierge app called Velocity Black and later sold his stake for tens of millions of pounds, has said the UK has “completely lost control of our borders.”

I had a look up to see what attention this got in the media, came across this article in the Spectator...

It is clear that Mr Yusuf has not thrown his lot in with Reform in spite of its policies on migration, but because of them. Britain, he says, has ‘lost control of its borders’, adding, ‘my parents came here legally. When I talk to my friends they are as affronted by illegal Channel crossings, which are an affront to all hard-working British people but not least the migrants who played by the rules and came legally.’ It shouldn’t really shock anyone, any more than it shocks us to find out that people who pay their taxes are not terribly keen on people who evade them, or that people who took great trouble to stick to the rules during lockdowns tended to be the most upset when it emerged that Downing Street staff treated them with a more cavalier attitude. It is simply human nature: most people who stick carefully to the rules tend to feel affronted when others have cheated.

Yet it seems to confuse many people who, over and over again, get confused by the fact that so many of the politicians who have been toughest on illegal migration have been themselves migrants or the children of migrants. Priti Patel, Rishi Sunak, Suella Braverman, and before them Michael Portillo, for instance. Why are these people taking it out on migrants, their left-wing critics ask when they have benefited from migration themselves? For many progressives, someone like Braverman is a traitor to her own kind; they have to imagine deep insecurities which have led her to this dark place.

Progressives struggle with the likes of Braverman because they see people less as individuals than as members of class, racial, and ethnic identities. If you happen to be a British Asian, then you should share the values of all British Asians. Moreover, you should conform to the opinions which grievance politics has assigned to you – which in the case of ethnic minorities is that Britain is a structurally racist country whose white majority population is out to oppress you whether it means to or not.

But that is clearly not how Zia Yusuf, Suella Braverman, and others think. To them, they are not betraying their own people by opposing illegal migration – or even in wanting to slow down the legal variety. Rather, they are thinking back to the efforts their parents put into coming to Britain – which might have required many years of study, filling in forms, paying for visas, etc. – and they feel offended when they see young men (and they mainly are young men) who are exploiting the asylum process by pretending to be gay, Christian, or telling whatever other tall stories help them to play the system.

It all comes down to a basic sense of fairness. This doesn’t mean to say that a party that focuses on migration doesn’t also risk attracting people who are racists – like Ukip before it, Reform UK will face a constant battle to keep out such people, as we have found with its vetting issues this week. But no one should be surprised if other children of migrants are drawn to a party which is serious about wanting to tackle the problem. Reform UK’s opponents will have to find a more intelligent way of opposing it than simply trying to denounce it as racist.
 
I had a look up to see what attention this got in the media, came across this article in the Spectator...

It is clear that Mr Yusuf has not thrown his lot in with Reform in spite of its policies on migration, but because of them. Britain, he says, has ‘lost control of its borders’, adding, ‘my parents came here legally. When I talk to my friends they are as affronted by illegal Channel crossings, which are an affront to all hard-working British people but not least the migrants who played by the rules and came legally.’ It shouldn’t really shock anyone, any more than it shocks us to find out that people who pay their taxes are not terribly keen on people who evade them, or that people who took great trouble to stick to the rules during lockdowns tended to be the most upset when it emerged that Downing Street staff treated them with a more cavalier attitude. It is simply human nature: most people who stick carefully to the rules tend to feel affronted when others have cheated.

Yet it seems to confuse many people who, over and over again, get confused by the fact that so many of the politicians who have been toughest on illegal migration have been themselves migrants or the children of migrants. Priti Patel, Rishi Sunak, Suella Braverman, and before them Michael Portillo, for instance. Why are these people taking it out on migrants, their left-wing critics ask when they have benefited from migration themselves? For many progressives, someone like Braverman is a traitor to her own kind; they have to imagine deep insecurities which have led her to this dark place.

Progressives struggle with the likes of Braverman because they see people less as individuals than as members of class, racial, and ethnic identities. If you happen to be a British Asian, then you should share the values of all British Asians. Moreover, you should conform to the opinions which grievance politics has assigned to you – which in the case of ethnic minorities is that Britain is a structurally racist country whose white majority population is out to oppress you whether it means to or not.

But that is clearly not how Zia Yusuf, Suella Braverman, and others think. To them, they are not betraying their own people by opposing illegal migration – or even in wanting to slow down the legal variety. Rather, they are thinking back to the efforts their parents put into coming to Britain – which might have required many years of study, filling in forms, paying for visas, etc. – and they feel offended when they see young men (and they mainly are young men) who are exploiting the asylum process by pretending to be gay, Christian, or telling whatever other tall stories help them to play the system.

It all comes down to a basic sense of fairness. This doesn’t mean to say that a party that focuses on migration doesn’t also risk attracting people who are racists – like Ukip before it, Reform UK will face a constant battle to keep out such people, as we have found with its vetting issues this week. But no one should be surprised if other children of migrants are drawn to a party which is serious about wanting to tackle the problem. Reform UK’s opponents will have to find a more intelligent way of opposing it than simply trying to denounce it as racist.
There’s a lot of common sense in that and leaves plenty to ponder on.

I agree with the last part sadly. They’ll have a job keeping out old BNP and NF kind of people.
 
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There’s a lot of common sense in that and leaves plenty to ponder on.

I agree with the last part sadly. They’ll have a job keeping out old BNP and NF kind of people.

Especially in fooking Essex...or certain parts of it.
 
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