Election 2024

[Sucky]

You know, its never struck me until now

I've never actually seen Farage talking about normal policies like this.

Like benefits, the economy etc

its always migrants

Dont think hes had to before has he. Just peddled the immigration and brexit thing innit

 

[Saf]

Hey man a bunch if young lads piling in is what engerlund fans have built they're reputation on so dont knock it guv

More deflection.

 

[Archers Road]

I dont even know what that one is!

Pretty sure they used lithium crystals to power the Starship Enterprise

 

[Welshie]

Pretty sure they used lithium crystals to power the Starship Enterprise

Powers my car

didnt know it grew from the ground

****s anyone complaining about

 

[PINKIE]

That's what I said, he was on Big Brother some years back.

Yeah I mean on the political scene

 

[Sucky]

More deflection.

So english fans kicking the **** out of people is bantz

But the irish do it and its deflection?

Thats some proper white privilege that is

 

[PINKIE]

I agree with that. Just wouldnt celebrate a couple of old men getting chinned in front of the wives and kids by a gang of young lads, the way you and Sucky are doing.

I just wanna see Andrew Tate take a pikey pummelling

 

[Sucky]

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Just ****ing hilarious.

After 14 years of our government making everything more expensive you sinpky cannot afford to have another different government.

 

[Archers Road]

Same mentality with Trump. He might have tried to start an insurrection, lied about sleeping with a hooker, paid her hush money and stolen confidential documents. But that’s all a democrat conspiracy to stop Trump from exposing them all as blood drinking peados

Yeah, but Yanks though. There’s something very weird going on with that.

 

[Treble]

Mainly agree with most of that.

Farage doesn’t need his figures to add up. He knows that. This election and the next few years will be all about building up a supporter base. He’ll say whatever he needs to because he’s not being properly scrutinised until he’s genuinely a contender in an election.

As for going private with over our health. I’ve banged that drum for well over a decade now. It doesn’t work in its current form. It needs help financially and if that means going through some sort of insurance or pay at the point of service then so be it if it will run more efficiently.

It'll be a slippery slope Saf. Once we go private with our 'hands on' care then all accountability is lost. The level and quality will become the lowest common denominator dictated by cost for the provider and dividends for the shareholders. We'll have people being treated like asset/expenditure rather than patients.

Also add, the basic level of cover will be x, y, z but anything over and above in the fine print will be extra. This happens in the French system Farage is quoting - there's basic cover, then you pay more for the extra cover and if you don't have that you pay out of your pocket.

I knew that the France system is also more expensive and a quick google shows that in the 10 yrs prior to covid the French system had 20% more spending per person than the NHS. If we'd matched that per person we'd have an extra £40bn which could help the consultant shortfalls and better primary care.
https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-...ng-compare-across-europe-over-the-past-decade

When we should be nationalising services which the private sector have fcked up, this would be the wrong way to go with the NHS and once it's done we'll never go back.

 

[brb]

It'll be a slippery slope Saf. Once we go private with our 'hands on' care then all accountability is lost. The level and quality will become the lowest common denominator dictated by cost for the provider and dividends for the shareholders. We'll have people being treated like asset/expenditure rather than patients.

Also add, the basic level of cover will be x, y, z but anything over and above in the fine print will be extra. This happens in the French system Farage is quoting - there's basic cover, then you pay more for the extra cover and if you don't have that you pay out of your pocket.

I knew that the France system is also more expensive and a quick google shows that in the 10 yrs prior to covid the French system had 20% more spending per person than the NHS. If we'd matched that per person we'd have an extra £40bn which could help the consultant shortfalls and better primary care.
https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-...ng-compare-across-europe-over-the-past-decade

When we should be nationalising services which the private sector have fcked up, this would be the wrong way to go with the NHS and once it's done we'll never go back.

I'm not reading all that, no fooking way.

 

[Treble]

I'm not reading all that, no fooking way.

I usually add another couple of paragraphs so you don't

You did though...

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[Solid Air]

It'll be a slippery slope Saf. Once we go private with our 'hands on' care then all accountability is lost. The level and quality will become the lowest common denominator dictated by cost for the provider and dividends for the shareholders. We'll have people being treated like asset/expenditure rather than patients.

Also add, the basic level of cover will be x, y, z but anything over and above in the fine print will be extra. This happens in the French system Farage is quoting - there's basic cover, then you pay more for the extra cover and if you don't have that you pay out of your pocket.

I knew that the France system is also more expensive and a quick google shows that in the 10 yrs prior to covid the French system had 20% more spending per person than the NHS. If we'd matched that per person we'd have an extra £40bn which could help the consultant shortfalls and better primary care.
https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-...ng-compare-across-europe-over-the-past-decade

When we should be nationalising services which the private sector have fcked up, this would be the wrong way to go with the NHS and once it's done we'll never go back.

apart from the fact that nearly every country that has a system like that outperforms the NHS and most by a long way .

 

[Treble]

apart from the fact that nearly every country that has a system like that outperforms the NHS and most by a long way .

But they spend more on it.

You'd also need to see what they gauge performance on.

Btw wasn't the NHS the best healthcare system in the world up until 2010 and that was also due to spending per head. I hear this and if true then that's what's needed.

 

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Don’t leave a graze on him. What the **** is whacking him with a flip-flop going to do?

 

[Sucky]

apart from the fact that nearly every country that has a system like that outperforms the NHS and most by a long way .

Was that before or after the tories running it fir 14 years?

Out of interest

 

[Solid Air]

But they spend more on it.

You'd also need to see what they gauge performance on.

Btw wasn't the NHS the best healthcare system in the world up until 2010 and that was also due to spending per head. I hear this and if true then that's what's needed.

No though probably the most efficient .

It would help if we decided what the NHS has to do and do well and get rid of the extraneous stuff they do .

 

[Sucky]

Don’t leave a graze on him. What the **** is whacking him with a flip-flop going to do?

In some cultures throwing shoes is the height of disrespect.

Maybe they was just tryna make him feel at home i dunno

 

[PINKIE]

It'll be a slippery slope Saf. Once we go private with our 'hands on' care then all accountability is lost. The level and quality will become the lowest common denominator dictated by cost for the provider and dividends for the shareholders. We'll have people being treated like asset/expenditure rather than patients.

Also add, the basic level of cover will be x, y, z but anything over and above in the fine print will be extra. This happens in the French system Farage is quoting - there's basic cover, then you pay more for the extra cover and if you don't have that you pay out of your pocket.

I knew that the France system is also more expensive and a quick google shows that in the 10 yrs prior to covid the French system had 20% more spending per person than the NHS. If we'd matched that per person we'd have an extra £40bn which could help the consultant shortfalls and better primary care.
https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-...ng-compare-across-europe-over-the-past-decade

When we should be nationalising services which the private sector have fcked up, this would be the wrong way to go with the NHS and once it's done we'll never go back.

Farage wants to sell it off to Trump’s mates and no doubt packet a tidy sum himself in the process.

You can take the stockbroker out of Clacton …..

 

[Solid Air]

Was that before or after the tories running it fir 14 years?

Out of interest

not sure as it wasn't so much of an issue as the NHS was adequate .