Election 2024

[Welshie]

Rory Stewart with a great example of how Liz Truss worked:

"Rory, I want you to cut the parks budget by 20%."
"Listen, Liz, the park budgets are already too small. I just think it's going to be so damaging."
"Ok Rory, for you, I'll say cut it by 5%."
"Well, listen it's such a small amount, is it really worth fighting Labour and public on this?"
"Ok Rory, for you, we won't cut the budget."

 

[Peej]

My recollection from that time is a little different to yours. Farage won my vote, it is that simple. He was the one that was standing up in the EU parliament bashing the bastards time after time. The names you mentioned only ever appeared at the final hurdle. The job was already done by that point, Leave would have won with Farage running the campaign by himself.

He’ll get elected to parliament, next month. He’s got 5 years of winning the public over for the next election. I’m not underestimating him. Whichever party he’s at, Tory or Reform, in the next election. They’ll be there or thereabouts in 2029.

Can’t wait to see him in his constituency helping people with day to day stuff and then attending adjournment debates on key issues for the people of clackton.

 

[Archers Road]

Can’t wait to see him in his constituency helping people with day to day stuff and then attending adjournment debates on key issues for the people of clackton.

He has absolutely nothing of substance to offer anyone, and no interest in doing any heavy lifting.

People saw through Boris eventually, they’ll see through this duplicitous showboating **** too; it’s only a matter of when.

 

[Peej]

He has absolutely nothing of substance to offer anyone, and no interest in doing any heavy lifting.

People saw through Boris eventually, they’ll see through this duplicitous showboating **** too; it’s only a matter of when.

Only the leee Anderson types will actually believe he is going to do the spade work. From unelectable MP to PM? ****ing no chance.

 

[Saf]

Can’t wait to see him in his constituency helping people with day to day stuff and then attending adjournment debates on key issues for the people of clackton.

Well if he turns up for just one day he’ll be doing more than what the Labour MP for my area has ever done.

 

[Peej]

Well if he turns up for just one day he’ll be doing more than what the Labour MP for my area has ever done.

Would be interested to see that MP’s voting history.

 

[Saf]

Would be interested to see that MP’s voting history.

What’s that got to do with never coming into the area and seeing their constituents?

 

[brb]

People underestimate a right wing populist who can come out and just make insane spending promises without a care in the world.

Average joe on the street knows **** all, nothing about how the country runs at any level. It's why ministers hate them, because they go out canvass and realise the average constituent is as Gordon Brown described "a bigoted old woman"

Ask the average joe about anything and you get the same old **** answers. "ALL DA SAME INI DON TRUS ANY OF EM"

No one thinks anything unique, especially in England, nation of serfs.

Actually I think you are spot on with this. I hadn't paid Reform any attention but I'm seeing more and more people mentioning the party. Thing is unless you are young, a lot of people generally don't have much time to take notice of social media or forums like this, or take no notice of social media at all. So anything that goes through the general media or the rags is what they rely on - they have nowt other material to educate them differently. So people like Pinkie and Trebs might as well be chatting to themselves, because to many this place don't even exist. I've seen Farage starting to get more and more coverage on channels like SKY, what damage that will do...well we will have to wait and see on voting day, I don't even know the places their candidates are standing.

 

[brb]

The Greens are NIMBYs Pinkie, only a NIMBY like yourself would not be able to see that.

What's their policy on Green energy lol? There really isn't one. They're even anti-nuclear energy when it's pretty much universally known as the best way to make the UK self reliant and Green.

Foreign Policy? Don't have one. Military? Don't have one. Middle East? Whatever Labour say, go the other way.

Your positive opinion on the Greens is the exact same reason that the average working class bloke likes Reform. Greens just appeal to ignorant middle class people.

You're on form this morning

 

[brb]

Rory Stewart with a great example of how Liz Truss worked:

"Rory, I want you to cut the parks budget by 20%."
"Listen, Liz, the park budgets are already too small. I just think it's going to be so damaging."
"Ok Rory, for you, I'll say cut it by 5%."
"Well, listen it's such a small amount, is it really worth fighting Labour and public on this?"
"Ok Rory, for you, we won't cut the budget."

 

[Spurlock]

Is @Sucky all chilled out now?

Thought he was going to test @brb then

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[Sucky]

Is @Sucky all chilled out now?

Thought he was going to test @brb then

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[Peej]

Is @Sucky all chilled out now?

Thought he was going to test @brb then

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[Sucky]

What's a nimby?


Sounds like s political slur to me.


But that's okay its only pinkie

 

[PINKIE]

What's a nimby?


Sounds like s political slur to me.


But that's okay its only pinkie

Not in my back yard. I got an airport, quarry, dock, and soon to be lithium mine in my yard, so Welshie is chatting nonsense again

 

[PINKIE]

Actually I think you are spot on with this. I hadn't paid Reform any attention but I'm seeing more and more people mentioning the party. Thing is unless you are young, a lot of people generally don't have much time to take notice of social media or forums like this, or take no notice of social media at all. So anything that goes through the general media or the rags is what they rely on - they have nowt other material to educate them differently. So people like Pinkie and Trebs might as well be chatting to themselves, because to many this place don't even exist. I've seen Farage starting to get more and more coverage on channels like SKY, what damage that will do...well we will have to wait and see on voting day, I don't even know the places their candidates are standing.

It’s often a case of people who shout the loudest and make the biggest spectacle, get the most attention.

We’ve seen that with Trump and to an extent with Boris. Farage is stamped from the same mould…it doesn’t matter a huge deal whether anything he says is plausible or workable; but if it gets people’s attention then its job done

You have to remember we live in a country where a guy with a bin on his head can get front page coverage

 

[Treble]

My recollection from that time is a little different to yours. Farage won my vote, it is that simple. He was the one that was standing up in the EU parliament bashing the bastards time after time. The names you mentioned only ever appeared at the final hurdle. The job was already done by that point, Leave would have won with Farage running the campaign by himself.

He’ll get elected to parliament, next month. He’s got 5 years of winning the public over for the next election. I’m not underestimating him. Whichever party he’s at, Tory or Reform, in the next election. They’ll be there or thereabouts in 2029.

I think you're right that for many who had already made up their mind he had a big influence, but the vote was won by the ppl who were convinced during the campaign.

It was Vote Leave (credit Cummings) who did their research and reached the wider public much more effectively. 'Take back control', the NHS on the side of the bus, Boris talking about Turks flooding in, Reece Mogg on deregulation and making our own laws, Gove on all the new trade deals. That was all Vote Leave.

Farage yesterday on their manifesto announcement has opened them up to far more scrutiny. They had a car crash yesterday and that was day 1. Every day from now on he'll get the same and he won't get away with spouting bollox.

Some of the policies won't go down well at all with everyday ppl or will seem ridiculous. For example life sentences for drug dealers, cutting billions in benefits and public services, leaving EHCR, private insurace for NHS, the impact of increase in the cost of borrowing if you scrap interest payments on bonds. Add to that, none of the figures they're quoting add up.

Will that matter to anyone already triggered by the immigration rhetoric? Probably not, but that's his base. It will however put off much of "middle England" and ppl looking at something credible and currently pissed off with the state of the country under the tories and looking for more.

 

[brb]

It’s often a case of people who shout the loudest and make the biggest spectacle, get the most attention.

We’ve seen that with Trump and to an extent with Boris. Farage is stamped from the same mould…it doesn’t matter a huge deal whether anything he says is plausible or workable; but if it gets people’s attention then its job done

You have to remember we live in a country where a guy with a bin on his head can get front page coverage

It's exactly that, it's like I said a few months back, I didn't even know anything about Reform, now I know more than I choose to know, all because people will not stop chatting about them, so all the milkshakes and whatever else is chucked at them, makes them known. I think it was only Peej on here as an example at first chatting about them, now everyone is chatting about them...and people wonder why these shhites get in! I said the same with Trump ages ago, bringing in all these charges against him, is only going to assist his political campaign, yet before that he was virtually being ignored, people just don't learn.

 

[Welshie]

Not in my back yard. I got an airport, quarry, dock, and soon to be lithium mine in my yard, so Welshie is chatting nonsense again

I dont even know what that one is!

 

[brb]

I think you're right that for many who had already made up their mind he had a big influence, but the vote was won by the ppl who were convinced during the campaign.

It was Vote Leave (credit Cummings) who did their research and reached the wider public much more effectively. 'Take back control', the NHS on the side of the bus, Boris talking about Turks flooding in, Reece Mogg on deregulation and making our own laws, Gove on all the new trade deals. That was all Vote Leave.

Farage yesterday on their manifesto announcement has opened them up to far more scrutiny. They had a car crash yesterday and that was day 1. Every day from now on he'll get the same and he won't get away with spouting bollox.

Some of the policies won't go down well at all with everyday ppl or will seem ridiculous. For example life sentences for drug dealers, cutting billions in benefits and public services, leaving EHCR, private insurace for NHS, the impact of increase in the cost of borrowing if you scrap interest payments on bonds. Add to that, none of the figures they're quoting add up.

Will that matter to anyone already triggered by the immigration rhetoric? Probably not, but that's his base. It will however put off much of "middle England" and ppl looking at something credible and currently pissed off with the state of the country under the tories and looking for more.

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