Baz is wrong, and the club website is right.
You're describing an option to buy as the price has already been agreed between the clubs
Christ, you're frustratingly naive.
Baz is wrong, and the club website is right.
You're describing an option to buy as the price has already been agreed between the clubs
If it was an obligation he’d have contractually already agreed to those terms.It is and it isn't. If the player is happy to sign permanently on the pre arranged terms, we or Luton don't have a say.
If he refuses, then there's a spanner in the works and it ends up with the agents and lawyers.
That’s not an obligation though is it if we don’t have to buy him under certain circumstances.Your personal definition of what an obligation is isn't really the point.
The point here, according to the information we have, is that we have signed up to an obligation to buy him for an agreed fee this summer, meaning we can't choose to back out of that from our side. Giles himself might not be obliged to go along with it, but we are. If Luton and us both agree then I'm sure we could cancel it, but the obligation is on City, so if Luton and Giles want the deal to be completed then we have to go along with it.
If it was an obligation he’d have contractually already agreed to those terms.
Christ, you're frustratingly naive.
I don't think contract law allows that.
He was here on a loan contract til the end of June.
No one can complete him to sign beyond that.
The obligation is between the clubs. Ultimately the player decides
That’s not an obligation though is it if we don’t have to buy him under certain circumstances.
Tan did an interview saying it was an option
Yeah that’s called an option to buy. Fixed price, but gives the player an option.Can you ****ing guys not understand caveat and that a sentence in a statement doesn't tell the full story?
Luton and City have an agreement that the player will sign a pre arranged contract for a pre arranged fee if he wants to. Neither club can back out of that, ergo obligation.
If the player refuses to sign, then both clubs will be looking to the player to cover their investments and valuations, and it gets sticky.
But ultimately, if the player signs the pre arranged contract then there's nothing city can do to stop it.
It's not in our hands.
Giles could decide to sit on his Luton contract if he wants to. But if he wants to sign our contract, we have to fulfil it.
That's totally different to taking a punt on a kid with contractural triggers who's not gonna get a better offer elsewhere tho now is it?
Contracts are all about small print. The words 'option' or 'obligation' being semantically discussed by folk spending too much time on the internet isn't going to influence reality.
From the player side it could be described as an option.
But if he takes our option it becomes an obligation.
Yeah that’s called an option to buy. Fixed price, but gives the player an option.
You're a complete moron. Disbelieving the official club channels because they don't support your elaborate theory.
Baz has a track record of getting things wrong, it is a simple slip-up.
If you want to read about obligations, go and read the JKA case with Leeds.
How do we know Giles prefers a move to Boro ?

Baz reported it in Jan as an option. Quoting the club statement.
Ultimately it is an option, but is in the players favour, not the clubs.
We currently are in a 4 way standoff.
Luton and city have a guaranteed fee. The player wants to go to Boro. Boro will offer him more than his agreed city contract, but they won't pay the fee.
You think you can just say 'the club website said this' and make a credible argument?
Get a ****ing grip son. Concentrate on your btex or something because you make **** up based on the club website, stats sites and computer games. Or at least that's how you present..
Now Baz, he's basically Acuns puppet. And he's correcting himself saying it's an obligation based on decent club sources.
Only a Muppet would think he knows it all based on a single line in a club statement Vs someone who has a direct line to the owner.
As I said before, time will tell, but it's not necessarily city who have the final say.
Wind your neck in a bit, maybe you'll eventually be taken seriously.
We don't know if he prefers us or Boro.
We don't know if Tim wants him.
We don't know if its an obligation or option to buy.
We don't know if he has already agreed terms as part of the initial deal.
We don't know anything but there's not much else to talk about
The window opened today BTW
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