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  1. Culinary

    Culinary Well-Known Member

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    I've nicked this from the other forum but this is the main reason I don't want Rosenior (just based on my own preferences when watching football, not saying I'm right and others who want him are wrong):
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  2. country_roads

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    I don’t get the uproar of Heckingbottom but people wanting Rosenior.

    Not that I’d want either
     
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  3. master-simpson

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    Definitely not Ccoper (a failure) coz he’s feckin ugly.

    Wouldn’t say Still Tuchel Poch or Klippety have been failures, and they’d be exciting appointments.

    Bart
     
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  4. Johno808

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    Both would be a disaster
     
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  5. The Norton Cat

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    I'm not going to say you're wrong either but look at the teams that are further to the right in terms of how successful they've been this season versus those that are in the top left.
     
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  6. SourPatch2

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    I would only counter that by saying the two teams more even more married to the possession style were promoted. Obviously big differences in the talent within the squads though.
     
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  7. SourPatch2

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    You don't want Steve Cooper because he's ugly?

    What?
     
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  8. Wayne the Punk

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    What the hell is that telling us?
     
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  9. Vincemac

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    Who
     
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  10. Rade Prica

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    On about Robbie Keane mate
     
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  11. Vincemac

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    Ohhh dear
     
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  12. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Oh. You’re making it up as you go along then
     
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  13. Culinary

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    Both of them were able to convert that 'patient' play into chance creation though, something Rosenior's Hull hadn't mastered. I've seen plenty on here say that he's young enough to add that in time but there's no guarantee.

    I can see the appeal for people though and I should be absolutely clear, it's just my personal tastes - I don't particularly enjoy watching Man City although I know how good it is.

    Edit: it's also how low they are on the vertical axis that bothers me rather than how far along the horizontal one.
     
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  14. Vincemac

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    Not be him
     
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  15. Pure River Slut

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    I’m too old for this ****
     
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  16. Flash Gordon

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    Hull were 18th favourites to be promoted at the start of last season. History is being completely re-written with that squad. They got a good loan in Carvalho and everyone decided it was a top squad - maybe it looked like a top squad because Rosenior was getting the most out of them.
     
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  17. The Norton Cat

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    Yes, there is definitely more to it than just controlling possession. I wouldn't criticise you for preferring to watch a different style. I think there is evidence to suggest that a possession based, short passing approach is often associated with more successful teams. In part of course, that's because you need technically better players to play that way effectively.
     
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  18. SourPatch2

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    Yeah my big doubt with Rosenior is can he turn possession into chances and goals.

    If he was a coach who had mastered both the possession domination and chance creation he wouldn't be out of a job and definitely wouldn't be being linked to us.
     
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  19. Culinary

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    On paper Greaves, Morton, Seri, Philogene, Carvalho, Giles and Zaroury are exceptional for this level. Omur and Ohio should be very good too. Maybe even Tufan and Delap.

    He had the team performing better before half of those were brought in though so maybe too much change was inflicted in one go on a group that was doing already doing well.
     
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  20. Billy Batts

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    This is what I don't get. Everyone saying they had a fantastic squad. They had 2 or 3 very good players, the rest were okay.
     
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