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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Exactly, you don't need to tell any Spurs fan that lol.

    But in theory Levy's long term plan is practically reaching its end game now and success in theory shouldn't be too far away.

    The stadium's in place, the training ground's in place, there's other developments the club's invested in outside of those which will generate funds for the club and so all that's left is getting the footballing decisions right and to stop being Spursy, the latter will be harder than anything.
     
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  2. brb

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    Yeah I remember playing against Pele on my local park pitch, I tackled him hard and he took his ball home.
     
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  3. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    Ouch ... Ponky currently fluttering like a feather on a mackerel line... <laugh>
     
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  4. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    No mate, George Graham was trying to take a personal bung for himself.

    So you can tell your friend he's a stoopid **** <laugh>
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Oh dear. Flos caught up on his own hook there.
     
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  6. brb

    brb CR250

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    <laugh>
     
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  7. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    Have vague memories of 70 but 74 more so probably helped by the fact it was in our time zone
     
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  8. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    That still doesn't mean we were given money by Sky Sports.

    United won the first premier league and became successful on the back of it, that's how success works. It breeds more.

    We weren't given anything. All the crying that it wasn't fair is just nonsense. It was, because everyone in the PL was equal to the TV deal and commercial opportunities etc. etc. and could exploit that how they saw fit.

    This isn't a comment on the rest of the leagues, although those promoted, relegated from said premier league were always looked after with parachute payments etc.

    The lower leagues perhaps do not benefit from this trickle down now, but that's not really relevant to this current conversation.

    But then on that, do City give money to the lower leagues? No, course they ****ing don't.
     
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  9. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    <laugh>
     
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  10. FosseFilberto

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    Brave of you to admit on here ...but fair play to you ... what are your preferred pronouns?
     
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  11. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Everybody is younger than Flossy.

    Apart from Duggie maybe ?
     
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  12. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    ... and uglier ... including Duggie <cheers>
     
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  13. brb

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    It's very relevant even if you don't think so. It was only lucrative to those at the top, which is why Manchester United benefited and went on to benefit for years. As for City, no they don't care about those at the bottom either, but that's why it's funny, because they shafted you lot at the top, taste of your own medicine is how I see it, at least Pep let you win the FA Cup this year, I thought that was very generous and noble of him. As for the crying, none at all here, I hope Pep stays and denys the rest a few more trophies, just so I can see this place flooded by more tears. Once City get done, IF they get done, it will just return to the boring status quo of the usual top six, and their fans will be happy again, until the next game fixer comes along.
     
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  14. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    <laugh>

    Mans plucky little lestah narrative exploding like my ballsack when city get done.

    The ffp champions <laugh>
     
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  15. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Cucky <laugh>
     
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  16. brb

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    Along with George Graham, the game has been blighted by cheating for decades, long before City were in the spotlight...



    Exposed: the murky dealings of Manchester United


    World's richest club in crisis over agent payments. Sir Alex Ferguson's son paid massive commission. Manager's future in doubt after damning report

    Matthew Beard,Rachel Stevenson
    Wednesday 26 May 2004 00:00 BST

    Football's secret financial dealings were laid bare yesterday when Manchester United, the world's richest club, was forced to publish embarrassing details surrounding players' transfers and massive payments to agents.
    Football's secret financial dealings were laid bare yesterday when Manchester United, the world's richest club, was forced to publish embarrassing details surrounding players' transfers and massive payments to agents.

    United, admitting they have paid more than £13m to agents during the past three years, pledged to sever all ties with Elite Sports, an agency part-owned by Jason Ferguson, son of the club's manager, Sir Alex Ferguson. Its lucrative dealings with the club had been questioned, amid claims of nepotism.

    The report, released to the Stock Exchange, details several other staggering payments involving the signing of 21 players. The total transfer fees involved were £158m.
    The Irish tycoons John Magnier and J P McManus, who are major shareholders, forced the club, a listed company, to institute the inquiry during their acrimonious legal battle with Sir Alex over the stud rights of the racehorse Rock of Gibraltar. Although that dispute has now been settled, the outcome of the investigation will cast further doubt over Sir Alex's position, after a season in which the team won only the FA Cup seen as a failure by many.
    A United source admitted last night: "This is not just about United. The whole business of appointing agents and the amount they get paid needs to be more transparent."

    United acknowledged that it needed to introduce greater transparency to safeguard the club's reputation. It feared a backlash from shareholders.
    The report reveals that, in 21 transfers during three years totalling £158m, the club paid 8.5 per cent to agents equal to £13.4m compared to a commission charged by the Professional Footballers' Association when it acts for players of 4 to 5 per cent. The report gives details of one deal involving Elite which saw Jason Ferguson's company pick up a surprising £300,000 for its role in the signing of Roy Carroll, a relative unknown, signed from Wigan Athletic as United's reserve goalkeeper.

    It also outlines how Elite acts for 13 Manchester United players, and the Old Trafford club paid £237,000 in fees when Elite represented those players in negotiations with the club.
    In response to allegations that Elite had pocketed £700,000 from the sale of the Dutch international Jaap Stam to Lazio after he fell out with Sir Alex, United said it had been assured that the agent Mike Morris whom it paid was not involved in "either the management or the ownership" of Jason Ferguson's agency. That is contrary to press speculation, and there are suggestions Elite was paid by Lazio in the deal.

    The club admitted that a fee of £700,000 to the agent Gaetano Marotta to secure the purchase of the American goalkeeper Tim Howard was "large" but insisted that it was still good value for money. It represented almost one-third of the £2.3m transfer fee. The club said that its inquiries led it to believe that the agent's fee had been shared with others. But it had no proof.
    It added: "The review has not identified the redistribution of any payment to anyone employed or connected with the club. However, in the future, to ensure we protect the club from such allegations, we will ask for a declaration from the agent that they have no direct or indirect relationship with anyone at the club.
    "Based on this review, the board is satisfied there are no untoward issues between Elite and the club. Nevertheless, the board recognises the concerns over the connection between Elite and the club manager Sir Alex Ferguson. In future, Manchester United will not employ Elite Sports to act for the club and, to the extent Elite acts for a player or another club in negotiation with the club, will publish full details of its role in any such transaction."
    The club also pledged to reveal to the City the amount paid in commission to agents, a practice it started with the purchase from Fulham of the striker Louis Saha. There would be new restrictions on unsolicited approaches from agents, improved record keeping and tighter rules on the appointment and remuneration of agents.
    Sir Roy Gardner, the chairman of Manchester United plc, said: "This has been a far-reaching and thorough review of transfers over the past three years. I am satisfied we have complied with the relevant regulations but accept there are things we could do better. With that in mind, we have introduced improved internal controls and are confirming our commitment to greater transparency."
    Controversy over the club's transfer dealings was fuelled by the purchase in August 2003 of the Brazilian player Kleberson. The club admitted the player was approached on its behalf by an agent, Ian Hetherington, despite the fact he was not registered by Fifa, the world's governing body.
    Yesterday's report had been due for publication at the end of this week but it is believed to have released early because of an investigation to be broadcast on BBC3 tomorrow. The programme, Fergie and Son, is believed to look at at least one other controversial transfer.
    Shareholders in Manchester United took heart from the club's assurances. One said: "It appears that due process has been carried out and they are taking the right steps to address the issues raised in the report."
    But Sean Bones, of Shareholders United, an independent organisation representing supporters who are shareholders, said there was a wider problem. The UK had 234 registered football agents, compared to 111 in Germany and 46 in Italy.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rky-dealings-of-manchester-united-564740.html

    Football agent claimed he gave Alex Ferguson gold watch to fix match, court told


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...rnsley-coach-allegedly-took-bribe-court-told#
     
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  17. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    <laugh>Bro like how many transfer embargoes have you had? i cant count that high
     
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  18. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Weble


    <laugh><laugh><laugh>

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  19. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    1 if you cant count to 1, then you need to go back to nursery
     
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    Gessa Well-Known Member

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