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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. alcoauth

    alcoauth Well-Known Member

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    Diverse in that all north-west Europeans are essentially the same people, yes. Anglo is as ill defined as any national identity, all peoples have an ethnogenesis, a cake exists, but a cake is still made up of ingredients.
     
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  2. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Highly regarded, he'll do for me. After watching the Still vid I didn't take to him. Hope they get it sorted before pre-season friendlies
     
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  3. Skanter

    Skanter Well-Known Member

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    Is this Jensen, even a real link or just a made up one from this site.
     
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  4. alcoauth

    alcoauth Well-Known Member

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    I'd say as a youth coach he better hit the ground running mind or the fans will be on him as too inexperienced.
     
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  5. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I'm more

    1. Today
    2. Tomorrow.
    3. **** this ****, they're taking the pigs.
     
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  6. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Made up by the bookies/Nixon.

    No proper links other than Nixon.

    So no proper links.
     
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  7. Irish Black cat

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    Believe it came from twitter/otr last night then echo etc brought out stuff this morning about it saying he has been on the shortlist
     
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  8. Skanter

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    I thought it was mentioned on here, to see how far it would go.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    You think they're telling porkies <laugh>
     
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  10. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    No just Large White lies.
     
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  11. Culinary

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    Was he the assistant through Jansen's whole four years there?

    I hope he's not the John Robertson to Martin O'Neill or the Taylor to Clough if we are in for Jansen...
     
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  12. alcoauth

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    You spelt Huwite wrong.
     
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  13. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    I think you’re right. Beale and Dodds are/were both highly regarded as coaches but it’s been disastrous for both of them in charge. If we were to make the same mistake a third time running it wouldn’t take the fans long to turn
     
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  14. Pure River Slut

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    Eh?
     
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  15. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Being honest for me
    Rosenior - ready for the league
    Wait for it Alex Neil - ready for the league / though I’d like also to hit him with a rock
    Janson
    Still
     
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  16. Scootsie

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    Lens look like they’re in a bit of a pickle, financially, incoming transfers getting cancelled etc.

    If it’s between us and them for Still then it should be an easy choice for him, surely?
     
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  17. Scout73

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    Hes been more than just a youth coach, hes been an assistant at dortmund, gladbach, leeds and Salzburg.

    I get what you are saying but lets be honest whoever comes in, if they get off to a bad start some of the fans will be all over them

    Highly rated coaches have had success in the championship, certainly last season and i think Maric's upside is so exciting

    It might not work, if he did come in, but we could say that about pretty much every manager
     
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  18. SAFC Wilks

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    I don’t really understand the ‘ready for the league’ argument. These are professional head coaches.

    If it’s from a non league background or someone who’s never been a gaffer before then maybe it’s a factor.

    However, both Jansen & Still have been a manager for years at a top level, and Jansen has midweek European games experience too. It’s not like they’re going to get a shock playing in the 2nd tier in England.
     
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  19. The Norton Cat

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    That depends on how you define 'the same people'. At the points at which the various groups that make up the English people (if you use the definition that fell out of usage in the 1950s), came together, they were culturally significantly different from one another and that would have been highly obvious to anyone living at the time.

    Unless used as part of a term to denote a combination, such as Anglo-Scottish or Anglo-Italian, the term Anglo has attracted some negative connotations. 'Anglo-Saxon' for example has been suggested to be a racist term, partly due to its use in 19th century racial theories, which have been scientifically dismissed, and to cast the 'Celtic' (also an inaccurate term) peoples as outsiders. It has also been dismissed as being inaccurate as a historical term. This latter point, although technically true, I don't agree with because it's replacement term 'early medieval' is even less accurate. I addressed this point in a book I had published recently. Nonetheless, the description of your 'cake' as 'Anglo' is jarring on the basis that, generally, academic thought is now moving towards it use only to describe the Angles (so Crosby, being of Old Norse or Gaelic origin can't be Anglo) and because a much more accurate word, English, exists to describe things from or of England.
     
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  20. alcoauth

    alcoauth Well-Known Member

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    Sure, but it's a gamble and the club have to decide what sort of appointment to make, for every success there are likely even more failures, my mind immediately goes to Clement at Derby who had an absolutely elite CV before being appointed.

    A big part of having a good management CV is that when things are going tough you can point to experiences prior that suggest they can get out of it, you want as many things to grasp onto as possible.
     
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