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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on

    Ive been told by reliable sources (@Magnus heard similar) that the club were willing to let Still bring in the coaches he wanted, all agreed n then hes decided to join Lens

    I agree the club could have done it quicker but i understand that Still couldnt sign a deal with anyone until 1st of June so the club's hands on tied on that

    Theyve clearly gone out to get their man n given him what he wants, another job has come up that he feels is better

    The club needs to go quickly to target 2 now
     
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  2. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Bang on. It's one man doing and the evidence is there for everyone to see.
     
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  3. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    I get that but we haven’t been quick to bash the club, we haven’t had a manager for nearly 4 months. If the season was a few weeks longer we would’ve been in real danger of relegation, we can’t take that form into next season with a 3rd/4th choice manager that the players are underwhelmed by.
     
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  4. Mackem 10.1

    Mackem 10.1 Well-Known Member

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    We get that you don't like Speakman, but who are we meant to believe, some media saying 1 thing and others saying something different
     
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  5. Late goal Scorer

    Late goal Scorer Well-Known Member

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    The negotiations obviously took longer than we might have hoped and just possibly we might have tied things down earlier but I think it’s very likely his agent has let Lens and other parties know he’s agreed terms so make a move now if you’re going to. Norwich tried but were less attractive, Lens are for whatever reason more attractive. The negotiations taking ages will have been on both sides.
    Fault on both sides I suspect but that’s football. Need to act promptly now for alternative options.
     
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  6. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    everyone’s entitled to make their own impressions based on all the info they receive.

    until this evening I’ve always been supportive of Speakman and KLD, and given them the benefit of the doubt despite reservations. Tonight I’ve had it. Too many times. Too many coincidences.
     
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  7. J Flash

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    I get what you're saying but a common theme with these reports are that Still was the man they wanted. Hes been available for around a month, weeks before Lens even needed a manager, and we havent managed to get it done. Aye Still might have been hard work for us the past few weeks, but ultimately the club havent managed to get what they wanted and thats disappointing (especially if the report saying its down to staffing are true). Lets hope they had other good candidates in the background as a back up and we end up with an appointment we're happy with.
     
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  8. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Which manager who we could have appointed in February will it be?
     
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  9. The Legendary Tongue

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    He should’ve been sacked for playing Dack as a centre forward and saying watching us was boring. That ****ing idiot had the chance to change it but done **** all. Bladder the qunt.
     
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  10. Dorset

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    This. I think we've dodged a bullet with Will Still. He would have been off without any loyalty to our club, if he was offered a job elsewhere that he fancied.
     
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  11. HoratioCarter

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    Stewart was injured when sold. He played approximately 30 minutes Southampton over the season. I think £10 million in the club is better than paying him a years salary.
     
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  12. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Bang on. I think this is the general feeling amongst our fan base.
     
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  13. JHmackem

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    Only thing I’m clinging onto is that Michael Walker gets loads right about us, and he’s not said it’s completely dead, neither has Downie. Just that it’s all but dead unless there’s a u-turn. If Walker has insinuated that a u-turn isn’t totally out of the question, then it’s not totally dead. Hopefully all this hitting the press tonight scares the **** out of KLD/Speakman and they just throw everything we’ve got at Still to save the embarrassment of us not getting our number one target.

    If we don’t get Still, I dread to think who else would want to come knowing they’re not our first choice. It’s as bad a situation as the club could be in. Confirming Still now is the ONLY thing we could do to save face.
     
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  14. J Flash

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    Hope you're right with this mate. Really think we need an appointment in the next week now, even with missing out on Still, they should be closed in on 3 or 4 names now anyways.
     
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  15. Scout73

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    But the season wasnt a few weeks longer, last season was shocking we all know that. We know we need a cracking summer to kick on n get back on track but it sounds like we identified who we wanted as our manager n gone after him

    Been told by reliable sources that we were giving Still exactly what he wanted but hes then at the last minute decided to go elsewhere

    He couldnt sign a deal with any other club until the 1st June otherwise theyd be due Reims a lot of comp (been told it was between 7-10 million - which no club in the championship would pay)

    Noone is happy how this is playing out btw, we all want a manager in asap so we can start to look forward to the season
     
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  16. Mackem 10.1

    Mackem 10.1 Well-Known Member

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    If the reports are true then he hasn't been available to sign a contract June 1st, and that the contract aswell as staffing issues and investment were all agreed. Now he's decided to goto Lens. Who knows what the truth is, too many contradicting reports.
     
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  17. Southern A

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    undoubtedly a very good deal for the club. Should never have got to that point tho. Should have been re-contracted for longer
     
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  18. Prehab26

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    I don't like Speakman because he is the big issue with falling out with
    Neil
    Mobrway
    Appointing Beale.
    Being happy to right half a season off to take us into relegation form and finishing 16th.
    I don't like how he promotes people like Dodds and watches us get beat each week.
    I don't like it our he absolutely screwed some senior, well like players.
    I don't like it how he has swerved fan meetings because he doesn't want the heat.
    I don't like how it's June and we don't have a new coach after being without one for over 100 days.

    Just off the top of my head.
     
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  19. J Flash

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    Thats fair mate, I hadnt seen the 1st June stuff until after I posted my reply to you.
     
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  20. JHmackem

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    @Magnus You may as well come out of hiding as it’s all but been confirmed in the press that you were right all along and that it was ready to be announced. Nothing you or probably your source could do about Lens coming in for him.
     
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