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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

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    There’s only room for one scout on this board :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  2. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Barnsley finished 6th a few years ago and now they’re in League 1. Huddersfield finished 3rd, League 1 now. Not really a massive achievement to be honest. If we’re going to continually compare ourselves to the worst 3 year period arguably in the clubs entirety then it’s not difficult to make it look we’re going places.
     
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  3. LD19SAFC

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    Not enough was made of that. The list of signings was a disgrace. It’s no wonder some have got very little faith.
     
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  4. Pure River Slut

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    We have good things going on beneath first team level but the reality is we had a dire season with a substandard first team squad and substandard coach for more than half a season and it needs sorting right now. I may well be happy with whoever we get but if we aren’t getting who we want we need to locate the reason and amend things or we’ll be competing against people better than us.
     
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  5. Grizzled Wanderer

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    I think the only major issue is matching a head coach to a DoF. Of the appointments that haven't been temporary, we've appointed managers (or coaches wanting to be managers) so far.

    It might be KS' job to oversee the footballing side but it's KLD'S job to make sure the pieces are chosen with a coherent approach. Also, he's the boss. The head coach and DoF have to be equal partners or it's doomed.
     
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  6. The Norton Cat

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    Bury won the FA Cup in 1903, now they're playing at Step 5. Who knows how far we could have dropped under the previous owners. We're much more likely to end up in the Premier League under the current owners. One disappointing season doesn't warrant all the doom and gloom.
     
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  7. The Norton Cat

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    That's true. Although, I'd have said that the DoF and the coach have to have clearly defined but complementary roles, which won't always look like an equal partnership.
     
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    Main reason I don't say to much tbh it's literally pages and pages of the exact same thing written differently.
     
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  9. CR17

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    is there any genuine updates, are people still confident it'll be Will Still and announced tomorrow?
     
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  10. Pure River Slut

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    As long as they act on last seasons mistakes
     
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  11. The Norton Cat

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    I disagree, it is in fact sheets and sheets of matching information, expressed in varying ways.
     
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  12. The Norton Cat

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    There's currently no reason to think they're not.
     
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  13. Juan4754

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    Surely we hear something today about whether Still is going to Lens or not?
     
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  14. ISOE II

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    They should probably like each other too or you’re not going to have anything like a Clough/Taylor, Shankley/Paisley or Smith/Busby partnership. It would at best be a professional relationship. We may have a number of coaches that want to come to Sunderland and work within the model but if they think Speakman is an arrogant prick then they may not sign on.
     
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  15. steesafc

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    Bored with it all
     
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  16. The Norton Cat

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    My response was in relation to the original post that Dodds and Proctor weren't doing what they were paid to do. They were good in their original posts so should be moved back there, if the new Head Coach is happy with that.
    I don't believe we can be compared to those teams you mention with the squad we have and a NEW coach to bring it all together.
     
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  18. Johno808

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    The answer to that is no - Only thing we know is that in France the media are saying Lens have made him their priority and are rushing to appoint him

    There has been no physical link to us really bar one report which says we have spoke to him
     
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  19. Pure River Slut

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    Or think they are other than operations .
     
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  20. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Nobody said we aren’t in a better position now but to continually just point to that ****e 3 year period is nonsense. It’s absolute loser mentality.
     
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