Off Topic Who will you vote for on July 4th?

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Who will you vote for in July 4th?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 6 10.2%
  • Labour

    Votes: 21 35.6%
  • Reform

    Votes: 7 11.9%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 3 5.1%
  • Green

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Workers Party (Galloway)

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Will not vote/spoil ballot

    Votes: 13 22.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 6 10.2%

  • Total voters
    59
Early days but it will be interesting to see how many people use this poll. 33 so far, compared to 117 ultimately on the Brexit poll. I’m sure that a lot of non posters, non regular posters and posters from other clubs used the Brexit poll because there are nothing like 117 regular posters on the QPR forum. Even 33 seems like the top end of this metric,. Nothing scientific but I think number using the board have been shrinking for some time.

@QPR999 should be able to give us the numbers.

There were 38 posters who took part in the prediction league.
 
Bloody hell Stan, that's pretty grim if there's only about 33 regulars and most of us knocking on. I guess the Yoof are on InstaSnap or some platform I've never heard of

As you know, I won't be back to vote but I can tell you that being away for 10 years, the external view of the UK from here is that we became a laughing stock - May Boris Truss Braverman The Mighty Sunak - all looked and sounded like clowns. Our once revered status as decent, calm and statesmanlike has been battered

I am often asked 'who votes for these people?'

We really have become a joke

Anyone really believes Starmer will be any different? The tories have morphed into a right wing nasty party and Labour seem like small c Conservatives

It's all so depressing

Whereas I'm sure they were all raving uncontrollably when Corbyn was an option.
This Country has always had a high degree of disdain from abroad.



Oh well.
 
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...the external view of the UK from here is that we became a laughing stock - May Boris Truss Braverman The Mighty Sunak - all looked and sounded like clowns. Our once revered status as decent, calm and statesmanlike has been battered

I am often asked 'who votes for these people?'

With people of that calibre, we have done ourselves no favours but, incredibly, it could be worse: imagine having to choose between egomaniac Trump or geriatric Biden.
 
With people of that calibre, we have done ourselves no favours but, incredibly, it could be worse: imagine having to choose between egomaniac Trump or geriatric Biden.
Only Biden can make Trump look young & mentally competent.

As Gordon Brown said "I'm too old to be Prime Minister & too young to be President"
 
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This is a jolly little website to play with over the next few weeks.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Stratford-on-Avon

To my surprise where I live, one of the safest Tory seats in the country with 60% voting for them last time, is predicted to go Labour, though my suspicion is that tactical voters will go for the Lib Dem’s on the assumption that they will have a better chance than Labour.

Were it not for Reform the Tories would still hold the seat, on a vastly reduced majority. The right will eat itself.

Interesting to track the accuracy of this. Could be a lot of surprise and unintended results due to tactical voting.
 
This is a jolly little website to play with over the next few weeks.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Stratford-on-Avon

To my surprise where I live, one of the safest Tory seats in the country with 60% voting for them last time, is predicted to go Labour, though my suspicion is that tactical voters will go for the Lib Dem’s on the assumption that they will have a better chance than Labour.

Were it not for Reform the Tories would still hold the seat, on a vastly reduced majority. The right will eat itself.

Interesting to track the accuracy of this. Could be a lot of surprise and unintended results due to tactical voting.

Just checked my constituency (Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner), which is normally a safe Tory seat, and it's predicted to go to Labour too, with zero chance for the LibDems.

All tactical voters should use this site.
 
Just checked my constituency (Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner), which is normally a safe Tory seat, and it's predicted to go to Labour too, with zero chance for the LibDems.

All tactical voters should use this site.
Predicted Labour to oust the SNP in my constituency (Inverclyde and Renfrewshire West)
Having looked at some of its predictions, including Labour getting 479 seats to the Tories 92 overall and the SNP going from 48 to 12, I feel a bucket of salt may be required when reading this site. Still, a good laugh.
 
Early days but it will be interesting to see how many people use this poll. 33 so far, compared to 117 ultimately on the Brexit poll. I’m sure that a lot of non posters, non regular posters and posters from other clubs used the Brexit poll because there are nothing like 117 regular posters on the QPR forum. Even 33 seems like the top end of this metric,. Nothing scientific but I think number using the board have been shrinking for some time.
I’m exhausted by last season to be fair. Just waiting for some good (QPR) news to start filtering through.
Politics now is just so shallow, across all parties, it’s hard to be enthusiastic that anyone cares too much about the ‘people’ before themselves.
 
Because Labour are guaranteed to win by a good margin, this is the rare occasion where tactical voting is not really required and people can therefore have their votes represent what is truly in their hearts. I suspect the Greens will actually get a lot more than usual. I think it's more complicated for Reform, who haven't performed as well as everyone thought they might in recent locals. I hope the Lib Dems badly underperform, which I think they might as people won't use them for tactical voting.

Think there should be a None of the Above option on ballot papers

There basically is such an option, one that gets recorded in statistics:

What is spoiling your ballot, and how do you do it? - Voting Counts
 
With who's being offered by by the majors, the Informal vote could quite possibly have the highest vote.
 
We have wall to wall Labor & the Greens are currently fcukin this great country, here in Oz.
Everything promised has had the opposite effect ............. the so called savings? Costs of living has more than doubled in two years.
If you thought Errol Flynn fcuked everything in Hollywood, you ain't seen nothing!
This current Labor government has managed to obliterate anything the former Liberal government achieved.
 
Because Labour are guaranteed to win by a good margin, this is the rare occasion where tactical voting is not really required and people can therefore have their votes represent what is truly in their hearts. I suspect the Greens will actually get a lot more than usual. I think it's more complicated for Reform, who haven't performed as well as everyone thought they might in recent locals. I hope the Lib Dems badly underperform, which I think they might as people won't use them for tactical voting.



There basically is such an option, one that gets recorded in statistics:

What is spoiling your ballot, and how do you do it? - Voting Counts

Don’t honestly see the point. Yeah it’s kind of fun to write “they’re all ****s” on the ballot but Starmer isn’t going to sit there after and say “yeah there were a few more spoiled ballots than usual so we’d better do x, y and z”.

I get the protest vote for Greens, Reform and whoever else but where they’ve got no chance it again isn’t going to impact anything. Great if Reform can cost the Tories a few seats from my point of view but it’s not going to seriously impact the policies of the next government.