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Spurf said:
I don't care about Arsenal. I am not interested in their results or winnings. I am a Spurs fan but I do not use the club as an extension of my ego. I follow Spurs and I want to win every game. Football is a simple game and I enjoy it on that basis.
Did you know that Spurs claim to have 3 million fans in the UK and 180 million worldwide. The fans who are most concerned with Arsenal are the ones who live in North London because the culture they live in is based around that old rivalry, but as most fans do not live anywhere near London, never mind North London it's not the same for them.
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Your point about where you live is spot on...currently work with 3 gooners...2 give me **** so today was funny as... getting the kids to sing 10 green bottles etc.
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Spurf said:
I don't care about Arsenal. I am not interested in their results or winnings. I am a Spurs fan but I do not use the club as an extension of my ego. I follow Spurs and I want to win every game. Football is a simple game and I enjoy it on that basis.
Did you know that Spurs claim to have 3 million fans in the UK and 180 million worldwide. The fans who are most concerned with Arsenal are the ones who live in North London because the culture they live in is based around that old rivalry, but as most fans do not live anywhere near London, never mind North London it's not the same for them.
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I'm not sure how true this is. I'm from North London and my grandparents used to live off Lordship Lane. I still live no more than a half an hour drive from the stadium (without traffic!). So my experience as a fan has always been pretty 'local'.

Despite this, as a kid I absolutely hated Arsenal more than any other club and that was usually the only game I'd cry after when (not if) we lost.

But as I got older and playground banter got left behind, I began to realise that whereas my feelings toward them were based in rivalry or perhaps territory, my feelings towards Chelsea were based in genuine hatred. For their fan base, for their scummy players but most of all for what they did and continue to do to push football as a sport closer to the precipice of oblivion.

I hate Arsenal and love it when they lose. And when they do, I feel a flicker of pride.

But I genuinely loath Chelsea to a point where it is probably worrying. When they lose, I feel like football has scored a moral victory.
 
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Citizen Kane. said:
I'm not sure how true this is. I'm from North London and my grandparents used to live off Lordship Lane. I still live no more than a half an hour drive from the stadium (without traffic!). So my experience as a fan has always been pretty 'local'.

Despite this, as a kid I absolutely hated Arsenal more than any other club and that was usually the only game I'd cry after when (not if) we lost.

But as I got older and playground banter got left behind, I began to realise that whereas my feelings toward them were based in rivalry or perhaps territory, my feelings towards Chelsea were based in genuine hatred. For their fan base, for their scummy players but most of all for what they did and continue to do to push football as a sport closer to the precipice of oblivion.

I hate Arsenal and love it when they lose. And when they do, I feel a flicker of pride.

But I genuinely loath Chelsea to a point where it is probably worrying. When they lose, I feel like football has scored a moral victory.
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Chelsea's fanbase seems to be unevenly split between old racists and young, glory-hunting, oligarch-loving plastics.
The older fans don't recognise the club and the younger ones don't remember them being ****.
From West Ham without the claret to a mafiosos death avoidance scheme.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Chelsea's fanbase seems to be unevenly split between old racists and young, glory-hunting, oligarch-loving plastics.
The older fans don't recognise the club and the younger ones don't remember them being ****.
From West Ham without the claret to a mafiosos death avoidance scheme.
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Spot on description.

Horrible horrible little club.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Maybe Southgate should stick him in the Euros squad?
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He does possess the ultimate qualification of being at a big club and not playing. Where Kalvin Phillips went wrong is taking the loan move to Wet Spam so that everyone (even Southgate) could see that not playing is not really a good thing for a footballer. If he had stayed at City I genuinely believe he had a good chance of going to the Euros.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Chelsea's fanbase seems to be unevenly split between old racists and young, glory-hunting, oligarch-loving plastics.
The older fans don't recognise the club and the younger ones don't remember them being ****.
From West Ham without the claret to a mafiosos death avoidance scheme.
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Here is the maths : Spanners (club + support) + money = Kings Rd FC.
 
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remembercolinlee said:
Good points but I personally hate the "true" v "armchair" fan stuff.
On a personal level, I couldn't go until I was 14 yrs old. Went regularly until I was 17 but then could afford to go as I was living alone, trying to make ends meet.

Then when I got my life a bit sorted at 20 I went 3 or 4 time a year for the next 6 years.

Then couldn't go cos of money and kids.

But started going with the kids in 2003 and have been a member for the past 20 yrs and go to 10-15 games per season.

At no point was I ever a proper fan or an armchair fan. Have always been as much as a fan as any season ticket holder imo.

Same goes for any fan who don't go to games imo.
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Well said Colin, I have never had a season ticket and have probably been to less than a 100 Spurs matches the majority of those this century, I have been a Spurs fan (mainly armchair) since 1971, and I know that there are more dedicated Spurs fans than me I don't deny that but I am in my opinion as 'Proper Spurs' as anyone.

But equally I love football and have been to nearly a thousand matches in total many in around Kent, and have been to over 50 football league grounds and in fact there is only 1 of the 92 teams in the top 4 divisions that I have not seen play live. (Liverpool!)
 
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The Changing Man said:
Surely Bayern came third in a one horse race!
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Regrettably, that's all too familiar, as we approach a final day fixture against a team that's already rele
Citizen Kane. said:
I'm not sure how true this is. I'm from North London and my grandparents used to live off Lordship Lane. I still live no more than a half an hour drive from the stadium (without traffic!). So my experience as a fan has always been pretty 'local'.

Despite this, as a kid I absolutely hated Arsenal more than any other club and that was usually the only game I'd cry after when (not if) we lost.

But as I got older and playground banter got left behind, I began to realise that whereas my feelings toward them were based in rivalry or perhaps territory, my feelings towards Chelsea were based in genuine hatred. For their fan base, for their scummy players but most of all for what they did and continue to do to push football as a sport closer to the precipice of oblivion.

I hate Arsenal and love it when they lose. And when they do, I feel a flicker of pride.

But I genuinely loath Chelsea to a point where it is probably worrying. When they lose, I feel like football has scored a moral victory.
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I live in South London, in the Borough of Sutton, the belly of the beast. There are no words to describe my loathing of anything and everything to do with them. None.
 
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remembercolinlee said:
Good points but I personally hate the "true" v "armchair" fan stuff. ...
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There are attending, and non-attending supporters.
The latter may have attended some number of games over the years.

As one of the latter, for over 30 odd years I
have stuck to the vow that I would never take
a seat from the former regardless of how
great it would be to attend (I do miss the days
when other than for "full house" games, you
could decide on a whim to go and watch a game) .
 
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Dier Hard said:
Obviously not because they had bigger fish to fry. Them winning the league is far more important to them than us finishing in the CL three spots below them.

Us finishing in the CL was as good as dead when we lost 4 in the last 5 prior to facing City. The fact that a win over City didn’t even guarantee us anything too made it a game the majority of the fanbase were happy to sacrifice if it meant almost certainly guaranteeing Arsenal don’t win the league. That in itself was a small win. The funniest aspect is those thinking we genuinely had much of a choice in the matter anyway, City are the best team in Europe, it weren’t as if we were facing Luton and expected to win.

Sunday ended up being very enjoyable for about 99.9% of this fanbase with seemingly a handful of people on here aside; we secured Europa League and watched our biggest rivals fail to win the country’s biggest prize.
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I imagine EVERYONE enjoyed Sunday. It could hardly have gone better until Michael Oliver allowed the Arsenal goal. But if he hadn't then it would have meant that our loss on Tuesday did matter. And we played very well that night...lost to a couple of dodgy goals and had the better chances. I would still have rather taken our chances and had the opportunity even at the risk of Arsenal being successful
 
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PowerSpurs said:
I imagine EVERYONE enjoyed Sunday. It could hardly have gone better until Michael Oliver allowed the Arsenal goal. But if he hadn't then it would have meant that our loss on Tuesday did matter. And we played very well that night...lost to a couple of dodgy goals and had the better chances. I would still have rather taken our chances and had the opportunity even at the risk of Arsenal being successful
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Well you imagine wrong seeing as a few have already openly said they would’ve preferred Arsenal to have won the league.
 
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