Even putting his goals aside (as you say, there's such fine margins with goals and people put too much stock in rating a player based on them) his general play, movement and positioning as you've highlighted were far better. He held the ball up well against Cov, and think there was an instance against Ipswich where he lost possession but followed up with a second effort and won the ball back. Miles better than he had been up to the Stoke game.
Being as kind as I can - if you don’t think Ohio developed during his five months with us, you are overly fond of your own opinions being automatically correct.
Good shout mate. Many fans hated the way we played out from the back and said so every time we dropped points. Now the talk seems to be about lamenting who picked the team rather than how City played or the time it took to actually have a shot at goal. Time to move on indeed.
Ohio definitely improved. whilst here, but you could just as easy argue that he acclimatised, got used more used to throw UK, the UK leagues etc and grew in confidence. Which it turn helped him improve. In reality it's probably a mix of both.
Did Rosenior improve them, or did they just get better? Young players develop with game time. If it wasn't for Schteve Bruce.....Robertson would be ****.
I think a most of us are talking about how Acun’s comments on Wednesday (less than 2 days ago) reflect on the reality of the second half of the season. Not about whether Rosenior was a good or bad manager or whether Acun was right to sack him.
If you fail to do your job in the way your boss expects you will pay the price. I still dont see us sacking LR has harsh, even less so now Acun has clarified things. What has happened is my respect for Rosenior went up when I realised he was ignoring his boss and doing things which he felt were the right way to succeed. It takes balls to have that attitude and at some point in his career it may pay off for him.
Yes and no, yes getting them into the playoff's should be enough for him to keep his job, but no, as his style was not, on the whole, well liked by many of the Norwich faithful, and I thought he would have gone mid-season.
"bar his finish against Rotherham". You have to laugh. Yep his positional awareness and technique was so poor when he scored that goal and then he only scored against Ipswich because Rosenior improved him. Guffaw. And the "who do you drop" is a red herring. Rosenior could have started with his best available striker, then the best options in the other positions, and effectively used others not starting as subs. He didn't, and has fallen on his own sword of a boring conservative possession above all else football philosophy.
How bizarre. You say dropping someone is a red herring, then describe the process of dropping someone.
Yes because scoring a goal doesn't instantly mean someone's had a good game. His game against Ipswich was much better and was topped off with the goal. I specifically said in response to Ernie "Even putting aside his goals against Coventry and Ipswich he was markedly better" FFS how simplistic do you view games? Even Howden agrees he improved.
If he turned down Plymouth as he didn't want to relocate, why would he relocate to Norwich? I know its not as far, but surely Sunlan is a better fit for him?
But you just said he doesn't want to relocate? Why would Sunderland make more sense? Norwich is a much bigger job than Plymouth, is closer, and philosophies would be aligned.