Off Topic T'internet

[Oldsparkey]

Now our season is done, a quick off topic question - could be a long answer though.

You regular posters on here and those who drop in now and again for a nose, are you all on FFTP now? Anybody still still on FFTC or even on all metal?

If so what download speeds are you getting now and any problems with poor performance by your chosen provider?

Were you promised something you haven't got?

 

[remote]

Now our season is done, a quick off topic question - could be a long answer though.

You regular posters on here and those who drop in now and again for a nose, are you all on FFTP now? Anybody still still on FFTC or even on all metal?

If so what download speeds are you getting now and any problems with poor performance by your chosen provider?

Were you promised something you haven't got?

Fibre to the cabinet, but full fibre being rolled out as a mandatory thing so digital voice can be rolled out.
To be honest, I never look at download speeds. However, not had an issue with multiple users in the house, often streaming video. We're not data intense.

 

[clingo]

Still using fast pigeons here.

 

[Oldsparkey]

Fibre to the cabinet, but full fibre being rolled out as a mandatory thing so digital voice can be rolled out.
To be honest, I never look at download speeds. However, not had an issue with multiple users in the house, often streaming video. We're not data intense.

Had my FFTP for a couple of months now. Went for the full monty 900 mbps as an FOC upgrade on my existing contract.

Forget the speeds promoted unless you hardwire your devices with ethernet cables. I've only got my Sky Q box hardwired to the router because it sits right alongside it.

The rest are on household wifi and that makes a big difference to the speed at your device. Still getting over 500 mbps download on my main laptop though - huge improvement in reliability and no "drop outs" since the switch.

 

[remote]

Had my FFTP for a couple of months now. Went for the full monty 900 mbps as an FOC upgrade on my existing contract.

Forget the speeds promoted unless you hardwire your devices with ethernet cables. I've only got my Sky Q box hardwired to the router because it sits right alongside it.

The rest are on household wifi and that makes a big difference to the speed at your device. Still getting over 500 mbps download on my main laptop though - huge improvement in reliability and no "drop outs" since the switch.

There was a big difference in reliability from the front of our house to the back (main router in the front). I think its metal in the stud partition walls. Anyway, put a repeater in the kitchen and things are fine upstairs and down.

 

[Hilts24]

Im actually switching on Friday. Gone for the 300mbs

Thats actually far too much as im currently on around 37mbs download with 2 of us sometimes working from home , streaming films etc and thats more than adequate.

 

[Oldsparkey]

Im actually switching on Friday. Gone for the 300mbs

Thats actually far too much as im currently on around 37mbs download with 2 of us sometimes working from home , streaming films etc and thats more than adequate.

I was getting around 43 on FFTC which was perfectly adequate for me. The huge difference is the reliability and lack of drop outs.

 

[Barry Tiger]

Sorry, you lost me. I thought it was a question about FFP

 

[Oldsparkey]

Im actually switching on Friday. Gone for the 300mbs

Thats actually far too much as im currently on around 37mbs download with 2 of us sometimes working from home , streaming films etc and thats more than adequate.

Hilts - I only went for the 900 option because it was an FOC upgrade offer from my provider - free installation and no cost to me as long as I stayed in contract.

As long as it's FFTP, it makes little practical difference in real terms which speed package you go for. You'll only attain that headline speed if hardwired to your router with an ethernet cable anyway. Most current routers still operatie on wifi5 and are limited in what they can handle. I'd suggest 99% of users on here are on wifi and wouldn't notice.

Apart from the connection stability, I will say that accessing internet pages has become lightning fast - the only thing slowing it down is Erol Bulut.....

 

[remote]

the only thing slowing it down is Erol Bulut....

 

[Oldsparkey]

And another thing............

Most routers like my latest BT Smarthub 2 are still operating on wifi5 which can only handle around 500 mbps instead of the more recent wifi6 (it's been around for over 4 years now ) which can deliver over 1 Gig. Not that you really need it, but that's not the point.

My current laptop runs on wifi6 which is backward compatible with the router's wifi5 but both sender and recipient need to be operating the same to get the improved speed of transfer.

I don't understand internet providers like BT promoting gigabit services when they only supply wifi5 routers to their customers which can't handle it. From memory I think Virgin Media are the only providers at the moment who have started to offer a wifi6 router with their package.

You can always buy an independent wifi6 capable router (Amazon offers loads of them) but why fork out a few hundred quid (or a lot more!) when the providers should be supplying them with their package?

Very few customers hardwire to the routers with ethernet cables to get the promoted speeds. In fact a lot of laptops now like this latest one of mine doesn't even have an ethernet port to plug into.

Just measured my speeds - 940 at the wall socket - 520 on laptop 30 feet away. That's plenty, but that's not the point.......

OK, gripe over.....

 

[BluefromBridgend]

And another thing............

Most routers like my latest BT Smarthub 2 are still operating on wifi5 which can only handle around 500 mbps instead of the more recent wifi6 (it's been around for over 4 years now ) which can deliver over 1 Gig. Not that you really need it, but that's not the point.

My current laptop runs on wifi6 which is backward compatible with the router's wifi5 but both sender and recipient need to be operating the same to get the improved speed of transfer.

I don't understand internet providers like BT promoting gigabyte services when they only supply wifi5 routers to their customers which can't handle it. From memory I think Virgin Media are the only providers at the moment who have started to offer a wifi6 router with their package.

You can always buy an independent wifi6 capable router (Amazon offers loads of them) but why fork out a few hundred quid (or a lot more!) when the providers should be supplying them with their package?

Very few customers hardwire to the routers with ethernet cables to get the promoted speeds. In fact a lot of laptops now like this latest one of mine doesn't even have an ethernet port to plug into.

Just measured my speeds - 940 at the wall socket - 520 on laptop 30 feet away. That's plenty, but that's not the point.......

OK, gripe over.....

My head hurts. Can't we still write letters and talk, on the phone or, heaven forbid, face to face.

Listened to Radio 2 yesterday while driving home from Poole, Nihal can't pronounce or spell his second name, but a good talk show host. He had a woman on there saying there are many young people who don't go out or actually answer their phones to talk to others.

They only communicate via text, WhatsApp or closed groups on other platforms. WTF!!!

This is the end of the world as we know it. How do they meet up to procreate or is there a way to send jizz via the cloud for a quick turkey baster job resulting in an even more sheltered, non-communicative generation?

Where's the fun in that?

 

[clingo]

My head hurts. Can't we still write letters and talk, on the phone or, heaven forbid, face to face.

Listened to Radio 2 yesterday while driving home from Poole, Nihal can't pronounce or spell his second name, but a good talk show host. He had a woman on there saying there are many young people who don't go out or actually answer their phones to talk to others.

They only communicate via text, WhatsApp or closed groups on other platforms. WTF!!!

This is the end of the world as we know it. How do they meet up to procreate or is there a way to send jizz via the cloud for a quick turkey baster job resulting in an even more sheltered, non-communicative generation?

Where's the fun in that?

Well said sir.
There's no question that there are huge benefits offered by the internet but there's also no question that it's also ruining social skills. There's also the problems it causes with regard to health and subsequently puts more pressure on our NHS, to say nothing of teenage suicide numbers going through the roof.
I understand they're trying to bring in legislation to try and address the situation. I haven't studied the proposed bill yet but no doubt it'll end up as a political football anyway.

 

[Oldsparkey]

My head hurts. Can't we still write letters and talk, on the phone or, heaven forbid, face to face.

Listened to Radio 2 yesterday while driving home from Poole, Nihal can't pronounce or spell his second name, but a good talk show host. He had a woman on there saying there are many young people who don't go out or actually answer their phones to talk to others.

They only communicate via text, WhatsApp or closed groups on other platforms. WTF!!!

This is the end of the world as we know it. How do they meet up to procreate or is there a way to send jizz via the cloud for a quick turkey baster job resulting in an even more sheltered, non-communicative generation?

Where's the fun in that?

Thast's nothing to do with internet download speeds - that's a social problem.

 

[BluefromBridgend]

Thast's nothing to do with internet download speeds - that's a social problem.

Not arguing Sparks it just fitted as a catalyst to raise what I heard yesterday. I'm still amazed that people, particularly youngsters, only want to communicate via IT only.

The converse is that us miserable old gits wouldn't have the varied social intercourse we have on here without IT. That should pique Masky's interest.

 

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[clingo]

My 1983 Commodore 64 has stopped working.

 

[remote]

My 1983 Commodore 64 has stopped working.

The download speeds of your fibre connection probably drowned it.
(Did we have t'internet in '83?).


Edit:- first computers 'networked' 1969, birth of t'internet was 1st Jan '83. First commercially available service was pipex in '92.

 

[clingo]

The download speeds of your fibre connection probably drowned it.
(Did we have t'internet in '83?).


Edit:- birth of t'internet was 1st Jan '83. First commercially available service was pipex in '92.

We had fruit and fibre back then.

 

[remote]

We had fruit and fibre back then.

Probably kept you more regular than the first dial up services were.