Andy Scott needs to go

[Royston Hawtrey]

I make you wrong Uberdizxy.

On Methven, on his own podcast he stated that he cobbled together the money he had to hand at the time to make a token investment to “show willing”, that figure was £75,000 which is nothing like a 5% stake in the club.

A 5% stake on current valuation would equate to circa £600,000, and even storyteller-extraordinaire Charlie Boy has never claimed to be in for that amount.

And whether we like it or not, the investors have stumped up a significant sum of money for players. Unless you are adding Connor Coventry to your seemingly ever expanding list of wrong ‘uns. CC told fans at the POTY dinner that CAFC had offered him more in wages than two Championship clubs. When you consider that we also paid a fee for Gillesphey from a Championship club, and Thierry Small had plenty of suitors and won’t have come cheap, you begin to see that some serious cash by L1 standards has been spent.

We don’t need to split hairs on this one, BTW. I sort of suspect that you won’t agree

 

[lardiman]

As I've said before, I hope our spending on players like Connor Coventry haven't crossed any EFL red lines.

How much income do we have?
I can't imagine ST sales are up on this time last year.
Do we have a transfer embargo or a points deduction coming our way?

 

[ElfsborgAddick]

The owners are guilty of trusting the wrong people, that's all. What's wrong with cutting the losses anyway? Like Roland, and Sandgaard, they started withthe best intentions but made wrong appointments, but we'll soon find out more about their strategy

If Jones has final say I would say that makes Scott's position untenable.

 

[ElfsborgAddick]

I make you wrong Uberdizxy.

On Methven, on his own podcast he stated that he cobbled together the money he had to hand at the time to make a token investment to “show willing”, that figure was £75,000 which is nothing like a 5% stake in the club.

A 5% stake on current valuation would equate to circa £600,000, and even storyteller-extraordinaire Charlie Boy has never claimed to be in for that amount.

And whether we like it or not, the investors have stumped up a significant sum of money for players. Unless you are adding Connor Coventry to your seemingly ever expanding list of wrong ‘uns. CC told fans at the POTY dinner that CAFC had offered him more in wages than two Championship clubs. When you consider that we also paid a fee for Gillesphey from a Championship club, and Thierry Small had plenty of suitors and won’t have come cheap, you begin to see that some serious cash by L1 standards has been spent.

We don’t need to split hairs on this one, BTW. I sort of suspect that you won’t agree

You have not got any to split

 

[ElfsborgAddick]

Worst of a bad bunch.
But we've had no honesty or willingness to learn from anyone in a decade and a half.

Nathan Jones seems to be closest in approach to the only man willing to tell it like it was in all that time - Lee Bowyer.
Is Jones a better manager from a tactical point of view though?
He has a lot to prove.

I don't think he'll get a chance though under this shifty regime.

Dushitelet backed off after the relegation and changed strategy, and stumbled on Bowyer.
I'll still give no credit due to what happened before.
He did bring squirrel face along though who had a cracking set of bangers.

 

[ElfsborgAddick]

@lardiman

It’s important to separate the investors - who have been excellent IMO, with the 100% dud SMT.

It can only be a matter of time before the investors wise up & send Methven, Rodwell & Scott packing.

The yanks possibly gave them a bedding in period but then came over and laid down the law in appointing Jones.

 

[Dick Plumb1]

This is how our ownership is. Gabriel Brener 23 per cent, Joshua Freedman 23per cent, Warren Rosenfeld 23 per cent, ACA Football Partners 5 Per cent, Munir Javeri 5 Per cent, Marc Boyan 5 per cent, Charlie Methven 5 Per cent.11 per cent individual shareholders not been announced who they are or what their shareholdings are.

This is from Chicago Addick. Have no idea how accurate it is.

 

[Dick Plumb1]

As I've said before, I hope our spending on players like Connor Coventry haven't crossed any EFL red lines.

How much income do we have?
I can't imagine ST sales are up on this time last year.
Do we have a transfer embargo or a points deduction coming our way?

Short answer no we don't have a transfer embargo or a points deduction coming our way. Methven said that ST sales are at the same level as last Season. Let us see if their is a surge if and when we sign players.

 

[Ubedizzy2]

This is how our ownership is. Gabriel Brener 23 per cent, Joshua Freedman 23per cent, Warren Rosenfeld 23 per cent, ACA Football Partners 5 Per cent, Munir Javeri 5 Per cent, Marc Boyan 5 per cent, Charlie Methven 5 Per cent.11 per cent individual shareholders not been announced who they are or what their shareholdings are.

This is from Chicago Addick. Have no idea how accurate it is.

As far as I’m aware those detailed figures are not published anywhere so cannot be verified I’m afraid.

All the club have ever said is that there are a group of seven named shareholders each with over 5% shares, plus an unnumbered group of shareholders with less than 5%.

Charlie is one of those who has +5% so unless the club was purchased for only £1.5M someone isn’t being wholesome with the truth .

Well who’d have thought that eh ?

 

[Royston Hawtrey]

Short answer no we don't have a transfer embargo or a points deduction coming our way. Methven said that ST sales are at the same level as last Season. Let us see if their is a surge if and when we sign players.

You will never sell a lot of ST’s in League One.

a. The standard of football is generally sh1t, making it a ‘must attend’ event on a Saturday only for the most hardy of anoraks, or those wanting 90 mins away from the wife, and b. the fanbase has been let down too many times with bogus promises made to generate ST sales.

 

[lardiman]

Only the likes of Portsmouth will sell a lot of ST's in this tier.
Clubs who are clearly Hell-bent on getting to the Championship and play like they mean to do just that.

We haven't played even close to that standard since before the Pandemic.
We are dreadful.

 

[Ubedizzy2]

I make you wrong Uberdizxy.

On Methven, on his own podcast he stated that he cobbled together the money he had to hand at the time to make a token investment to “show willing”, that figure was £75,000 which is nothing like a 5% stake in the club.

A 5% stake on current valuation would equate to circa £600,000, and even storyteller-extraordinaire Charlie Boy has never claimed to be in for that amount.

And whether we like it or not, the investors have stumped up a significant sum of money for players. Unless you are adding Connor Coventry to your seemingly ever expanding list of wrong ‘uns. CC told fans at the POTY dinner that CAFC had offered him more in wages than two Championship clubs. When you consider that we also paid a fee for Gillesphey from a Championship club, and Thierry Small had plenty of suitors and won’t have come cheap, you begin to see that some serious cash by L1 standards has been spent.

We don’t need to split hairs on this one, BTW. I sort of suspect that you won’t agree

It doesn’t matter whether I agree. It’s there in black and white. Charlie does own 5+% of the club.

https://www.charltonafc.com/news/global-football-partners-purchase-charlton-athletic

 

[Ubedizzy2]

You will never sell a lot of ST’s in League One.

a. The standard of football is generally sh1t, making it a ‘must attend’ event on a Saturday only for the most hardy of anoraks, or those wanting 90 mins away from the wife, and b. the fanbase has been let down too many times with bogus promises made to generate ST sales.

Which confirms the fact that we haven’t and aren’t going to spend enough money to get us out of this league.

Our ST sales will not pay for a promotion push, our commercial revenue will not pay for a promotion push, we have to reduce our losses by £8-9M per season so that will hinder a promotion push and our owners will not put in equity to pay for a promotion push.

So what IS going to pay for a promotion push.

I’m intrigued to know.

Anyone ?

 

[ElfsborgAddick]

As far as I’m aware those detailed figures are not published anywhere so cannot be verified I’m afraid.

All the club have ever said is that there are a group of seven named shareholders each with over 5% shares, plus an unnumbered group of shareholders with less than 5%.

Charlie is one of those who has +5% so unless the club was purchased for only £1.5M someone isn’t being wholesome with the truth .

Well who’d have thought that eh ?

Who has the final say so? How many in the states pull the strings?

 

[Ubedizzy2]

Who has the final say so? How many in the states pull the strings?

Absolutely none of us will ever know that, because that’s all hidden behind a wall of secrecy in the Cayman Islands

 

[Royston Hawtrey]

Who has the final say so? How many in the states pull the strings?

I’d like to know who pulls your strings, given you are the same size as Bill & Ben the flowerpot men.

 

[ElfsborgAddick]

I’d like to know who pulls your strings, given you are the same size as Bill & Ben the flowerpot men.

My cuddly chocolate Pincer

 

[Dick Plumb1]

You will never sell a lot of ST’s in League One.

a. The standard of football is generally sh1t, making it a ‘must attend’ event on a Saturday only for the most hardy of anoraks, or those wanting 90 mins away from the wife, and b. the fanbase has been let down too many times with bogus promises made to generate ST sales.

I must be a hardy anorak as I have bought a Season ticket.

 

[Royston Hawtrey]

I must be a hardy anorak as I have bought a Season ticket.

Fair play to you.

Going every week is no longer for me, although Charles Hawtrey on ITTV worked out that it costs £16 a game if you buy an ST & attend every game.

I’ll be going to St Andrews next season, which is always a good day out.

 

[The Penguin]

If Jones has final say I would say that makes Scott's position untenable.

The Dobbo fiasco should make his position untenable