"I don't get it.. we just couldn't score."

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"I don't get it.. we just couldn't score."

How often are people saying this after games with us this season? I seem to read it all the time and while to us it is brilliant proof of how great our defense has been, it also seems to be the meat of some people's argument that we're supposedly 'lucky'.

Teams consider themselves unlucky to have not scored past our great keeper and back four and this somehow transfers to us being 'lucky'. Some fool said on another thread earlier that we were lucky because Man United should have scored 4, and it summed up our 'lucky season'. Now, unless we were handballing all of their shots off the line and getting away with it, I fail to see how our defending of the goal has anything to do with luck.

We've had some share of the luck this season (I'm thinking Wolves and today's penalty) but the fact that fans of almost every team we've faced are complaining about their team not being able to score is testament to a great defensive unit that we should be proud of, and it has screw all to do with luck.

I'm not one to be arsed about what other people think but I thought this would make an interesting topic anyway. Do you think luck has played a large part in our season so far?
 
skalpel said:
"I don't get it.. we just couldn't score."

How often are people saying this after games with us this season? I seem to read it all the time and while to us it is brilliant proof of how great our defense has been, it also seems to be the meat of some people's argument that we're supposedly 'lucky'.

Teams consider themselves unlucky to have not scored past our great keeper and back four and this somehow transfers to us being 'lucky'. Some fool said on another thread earlier that we were lucky because Man United should have scored 4, and it summed up our 'lucky season'. Now, unless we were handballing all of their shots off the line and getting away with it, I fail to see how our defending of the goal has anything to do with luck.

We've had some share of the luck this season (I'm thinking Wolves and today's penalty) but the fact that fans of almost every team we've faced are complaining about their team not being able to score is testament to a great defensive unit that we should be proud of, and it has screw all to do with luck.

I'm not one to be arsed about what other people think but I thought this would make an interesting topic anyway. Do you think luck has played a large part in our season so far?
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No, we have had some luck, but when all teams are on a run of form they get their fair rub of the green. We have always been unlucky, and when we said that opposition fans would say 'no, youre just ****' or 'you make your own luck'. Now its the opposite, cant win against people with that mentality. <ok>
 
I agree, we have played with great determination and spirit and for that to be trivialised as 'luck' it pretty pathetic. Luck is when something happens outside of your control and great last ditch tackles, blocks on the line, and superb goalkeeping from Krul is just great defending, not luck.
 
beardface said:
No, we have had some luck, but when all teams are on a run of form they get their fair rub of the green. We have always been unlucky, and when we said that opposition fans would say 'no, youre just ****' or 'you make your own luck'. Now its the opposite, cant win against people with that mentality. <ok>
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Totally agree. We're a tough nut to crack now and some people are so un-used to that being the case that they're quick to presume it's luck. Bizarre mentality.
 
We're a problem for any team that faces us now, we frustrate every single one. More than luck, it's discipline and team work.
 
Mifune said:
I agree, we have played with great determination and spirit and for that to be trivialised as 'luck' it pretty pathetic. Luck is when something happens outside of your control and great last ditch tackles, blocks on the line, and superb goalkeeping from Krul is just great defending, not luck.
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<ok> Yep. The 'if it weren't for your goalkeeper, you'd have been crushed' line is tired and seriously flawed logically too. The keeper is part of our team, a good player who isn't some sort of magical addition that we were lucky to have on the day. Straws need to be grasped at times I suppose.
 
Look how unlucky we were last week, but no pundit made a mention of it. Just Man City strolled through us. I really don't care about pundits or anyone saying we are lucky anymore. I hope we are "lucky" all season and get 4th. That would be hilarious!
 
Simspon said in post match interview about the clearence of the line they'd been studying videos of hernandez. Pardew is drilling these lads very well and they have been good in all situations thrown at them this season. Hoping a goal is conceded by city tomorrow. Best defensive record is a nice tag for us
 
skalpel said:
<ok> Yep. The 'if it weren't for your goalkeeper, you'd have been crushed' line is tired and seriously flawed logically too. The keeper is part of our team, a good player who isn't some sort of magical addition that we were lucky to have on the day. Straws need to be grasped at times I suppose.
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yep that pisses me off too..a goalie is one player out of 11 on the pitch, but if he has a great game we're classed as lucky to get the win or draw. what do they want? someone to just pick the ball out of the net???
 
I'd say we've been very lucky so far this season, not much has gone against us.

BUT

Nobody can be in the top 4 at this stage of the season purely because of luck. We're here on merit.
 
This is a perfect example of it.

And Le Tissier told Soccer Saturday that United boss Sir Alex Ferguson could count himself very unlucky.

"I counted probably eight or nine clear cut United chances in that second half, and not just after Newcastle went down to 10 men when Gutierrez had been sent off," he said.

"They just absolutely pummelled the Newcastle goal and in years gone by you just kind of sensed what was going to happen, and with almost the last kick of the game you thought it had happened when Hernandez tapped in. But fair play to the assistant [for flagging for offside].
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I do not understand how that is unlucky, do Man U have some God given right that they should finish their chances and that the opposition should not defend well? If they were denied a penalty or we handballed it off the line or something then that would be bad luck, but this just is not.
 
Everyone knows if you shoot enough times you get free goals by law, regardless of whether you hit the target or the other team dares to block/save the on target shots.
 
holystone said:
Ba is on his own............HBA is not playing off him . We need 442 sorry to score more goals.
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The fact we've played man city and man utd mit have something to do with the fact we haven't scored as m Amy goals with that system? I personally think its been perfect with Ben arfa playing with ba.

No body else could have picked the ball up , strolled past a few defenders to open up city's defence first to only misss by a matter of inches hitting the psot and then today to get a dodgy penalty.

If wed played 442 aginst city and united chances are wed have been over run in midfield even with tiote playing...
 
skalpel said:
Absolutely perfect example right there, Mifune.
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Agreed, it's like last week, when all the media were saying, "if Newcastle had put away their clear chances they would have drawn that game, very unlucky Newcastle."

Oh wait... they didn't say that.
 
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