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It does make sense...the list of clubs tells us that Newcastle would be unlikely to win it. You need to also consider who drops in it after the group stages of the champions league.

What you're doing is looking at everything through black and white goggles and finding reasons ro convince yourself that Newcastle were unlucky and held their own... we finished last mate and only managed 1 win in 6 games.

Newcastle hasn't won anything since 1969 ... the most likely way to end that is the conference league... even the league cup means beating all the big clubs to that prize which is much more difficult than beating Lille and Fiorentina isn't it.

All I want is a trophy.. finishing 4th and losing quarter finals semis and finals every year for another decade plus we can do much more freely if we get the 1st pot.

Final paragraph I agree with, the rest is too black and white. We played well in those games and held our own, simple as. If we can do that in the Champions League and finish 7th/6th this season, then we're easily capable of competing in the Europa League/Conference next season.
 
Final paragraph I agree with, the rest is too black and white. We played well in those games and held our own, simple as. If we can do that in the Champions League and finish 7th/6th this season, then we're easily capable of competing in the Europa League/Conference next season.


Black and white as in a fact compared to mental gymnastics.
 
Conference is just a renamed Intertoto but I’m sure we’d all be happy to win it for now as a stepping stone.

We'd all be absolutely loving it and it's definitely the most realistic and easiest one to get. I hope we land in it next season. We'd automatically have a very very good chance which isn't the same if we land europa..europa has many clubs above and on our level.. it would still be very unlikely and much more difficult to win.
 
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Everything you've said to avoid the fact you described as too black and white.

Lol, this is going in circles.

We finished bottom but we gave a good account of ourselves, especially against PSG. If we can give a good account in the CL, we can clearly do better in Europa, with obviously a much better chance of progressing/winning.
 
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Lol, this is going in circles.

We finished bottom but we gave a good account of ourselves, especially against PSG. If we can give a good account in the CL, we can clearly do better in Europa, with obviously a much better chance of progressing/winning.

That's the fact followed by mental gymnastics yes. Nobody has said we can't compete in the europa, but there's some snobbery towards winning the other major trophy which is Newcastles best chance.

It's not like we're Man United... we've won **** all for 3 generations of ball juice.
 
That's the fact followed by mental gymnastics yes. Nobody has said we can't compete in the europa, but there's some snobbery towards winning the other major trophy.

I've never said we're anywhere near winning the Champions League, City **** on us from every angle, but even they're gone out now, likewise Arsenal.

I never thought beating PSG meant we would significantly progress....for me that's more snobbery on PSG's front, they didn't give a **** against us and thought they could waltz past a "smaller" side, and in the end in was just that stupid penalty that meant we didn't progress, and PSG weren't totally out of Europe.
 
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I've never said we're anywhere near winning the Champions League, City **** on us from every angle, but even they're gone out now, likewise Arsenal.

I never thought beating PSG meant we would significantly progress....for me that's more snobbery on PSG's front, they didn't give a **** against us and thought they could waltz past a "smaller" side, and in the end in was just that stupid penalty that meant we didn't progress, and PSG weren't totally out of Europe.

I never said you did.