Off Topic The Politics Thread

Make some shanks out of stale bagels

 

This is the guy for that.
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news...joshua-cohen-admits-killing-mother-and-sister

 

Did he nick their phones too?

 

19 year old arrested and knife recovered following Beckenham train stabbing yesterday. Another two stabbed at Kennington Station last night, one had intervened to stop it...

 

The ostriches won't want to hear this!

 

It didn't say they were foreigners
Are all non whites foreigners
It's not the seventies anymore

 

@Goldhawk-Road to answer that. He generally avoids answering questions that make him look like a racist **** though.

 

Nice!

 

He attacks me every time I ask him a polite question. Still waiting for him to answer.

 

Why don’t you **** off from this site you sad little race-baiting ****, You don’t support this club. You hide your profile. If you can’t tell the difference between concern over levels and quality of immigration, and racism, it’s not my problem.

 

Can’t beat a little light banter and topical conversation.

 

It’s nice to have guests.

 

When was the last time you were in London?

No need to get so angry.

 

Oh dear, your mask has slipped Goldie

 

I’ve never had a mask. I make my views plain. If you can point out a racist post of mine Steels, please do so. Discussing the merits of mass immigration is not racist. Being concerned about high crime levels committed by recent immigrants or certain sections of society is not racist, particularly when most of the victims in a section are innocent victims eg young black men not in gangs.
Rotherham Labour councillors adopted a blind left wing attitude and children were repeatedly sexually abused. Thank God there was a decent Labour MP to shine a light on it.

 

I suggest you invite a Palestinian into your home then

 

Don’t want to have to clean the blood out the carpet.

 

That’s honest

 

I strongly suggest, Toby, that if you're going to post on another football site ( I say, another, - I don't even know if you support a team) then it's best to avoid personal abuse.

I'll answer your question. I was last in London six weeks ago to see an ailing uncle and aunt who live in Kew. I have friends in Muswell Hill, Shepherd's Bush and Thornton Heath, though most of my friends have moved out – a cousin of mine moved from Stoke Newington having started a family and being concerned at the high crime rate. My friends' kids who grew up in Shepherd's Bush were constantly being robbed at knifepoint – and yes, there was an ethnic dimension to that.

I was born in London (Herne Hill), and worked there for twenty five years. It's particularly bad for crime now, especially knife crime, but, of course, there's rising criminality all over the country. I blame Khan for his steps in London to deter stop and search ( and many decent young men, mostly black, have suffered as a result), but mostly I blame the Tories and particularly Theresa May for cutting down police numbers and shutting police stations. When the Third World comes into a country in large numbers, more police are needed, not less.

That there is a link between rising crime and immigration is undeniable (have a look at Sweden). I posted a YouGov survey at #90569 that left Strolls dumbstruck. Feel free to comment on it. The Danish government also put out figures comparing crime rates to ethnic minorities. Parts of the right of centre media are now seeking the same information from the UK Department of Justice. That department is resisting – and there's the point. An increasing number of people in the UK are disillusioned with our political system because of a lack of honesty, particularly on an issue like immigration, and a constant shying away from difficult issues like white child abuse and gangs. It leads to cynicism, and then one of two things happen. Voters start moving away from the two main political parties out to the wings of the political spectrum – it's happening now, and hugely so in many European countries. Or, they stop voting altogether, which is highly likely to occur at the next UK GE. And low turnout equals damage to democracy.

So I strongly recommend you adopt a more sophisticated argument than – anyone who's concerned about mass immigration and its effects must hate foreigners and is a racist ****. It's much more nuanced than that.

 

Coming from the person that answers some ****ty 'you're in your bedroom' comments at perfectly polite questions

I was born in Stoke Newington, I've seen London in various states throughout the years. The best were the New Labour years, the worst the Thatcher/Major years.

I work and go out regularly. If you only consume right wing news then you'll have a picture of London as a lawless hellhole, but if you actually live here you just notice it's more dirty and broken. The cause? Huge budget cuts due to Tory austerity.

Throw all the stats at me that you want at me. When I see people gleefully posting videos of a young black guy stabbing someone then linking it to immigration it makes me angry. He was most likely born here, and stuck growing up in the Tory austerity years. Poverty is a bigger cause of criminal activity than race, yet somehow the 2nd category is the one that gets blamed. I wonder why?