Match Day Thread Rotherham v Hull City

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1MoreAgain said:
Yeah I did I was looking at Sland and Coventry forgot Coventry equalised in 96th minute but we will over Sland but could still be 3 as well over cov if they drop points.
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Sure, over Sunderland we could get a 4 point gap, but the post you were replying to ('4 teams on 48 points') and the conversation being had was the logjam of teams on 48, which is where the confusion came from. All good!
 
So we could have a 3 or 4 point lead going into Southampton game if others drop points.

and if we win that it could be 6-7 point lead.

likely others will get points but still could drop them.
 
Yes, we could have a 3 point lead over some of the teams currently on 48 points with us if Coventry drop points to Stoke, Preston to Blackburn or Norwich to Cardiff (probably the most likely of the 3). I'd just focus on ourselves though and getting the 3 points at a ground we notoriously struggle at given the teams around us also have quite winnable games. Even Sunderland have Birmingham.
 
1MoreAgain said:
I do focus on that but no harm looking 2 games ahead is there.
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There is if it means banking 3 points in a game we haven't won yet. It's what leads people to get so outraged when it doesn't eventuate as happened against Swansea. Just take it one game at a time and don't take things for granted. When you're banking points and writing off points for the opposition and using that as a basis to look forward multiple games it becomes far too hypothetical. Reminds me of two seasons ago when everyone was insisting we could make the Top 6 and chucking bets on it, and I was urging restraint. What will be will be, let's beat Hudd.
 
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1MoreAgain said:
Oh because on your podcast you discuss the Southampton game with Mike.
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Indeed we do as we record once a week. Happy to be corrected but did we discuss Southampton with the context of 'Once we've beaten Huddersfield how will we go against Southampton'?

I really don't get the way you've taken this discussion. All it started with was me querying how we could be 5 points in front of teams level with us on 48 points after the next game and you've taken it down a weird alley. I know you love being very positive and looking for the absolute best case scenario for us, but watching this place meltdown after we didn't beat Swansea underlines why we can't take games for granted.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Indeed we do as we record once a week. Happy to be corrected but did we discuss Southampton with the context of 'Once we've beaten Huddersfield how will we go against Southampton'?

I really don't get the way you've taken this discussion. All it started with was me querying how we could be 5 points in front of teams level with us on 48 points after the next game and you've taken it down a weird alley.
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it’s not gone down weird alley you knew the point I was making in the first post.

and I never said once we beat huddersfield I said if then if others drop points we can get bit of breathing space going to Southampton.
 
1MoreAgain said:
it’s not gone down weird alley you knew the point I was making in the first post.

and I never said once we beat huddersfield I said if then if others drop points we can get bit of breathing space going to Southampton.
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I genuinely didn't as the discussion was about the teams we were level on points with so had no idea what you meant by potentially being 4-5 points ahead of them after the next game. Wasn't sure if you were talking about something else. You've acknowledged you forgot Coventry had equalised and were actually talking about the broader group behind us and I said that was all good!
 
Quill said:
FYI, like Syd did this morning, we'll be doing our pod this evening at 8pm. Expect someone to just not shut up about Philogene.

Watch us chat utter bollocks if you fancy it. Or wait until the audio comes out tomorrow, and you'll avoid our ugly mugs.

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Which one are you?
 
Steven Toast said:
Fantastic post TT.

I haven't been following the Tigers as long as you, I started going at aged 6 and saw us lose 1-0 to Scarborough in my first game. I look back at those days and remember going to teams that my dad and Grandad said were decent sized clubs ("this'll be a tough one"), like York and Carlisle. So using that as a yard stick, I recall one of my earlier seasons we went down to the bottom division, Swansea, Brighton and I think Carlisle went down with us, York stayed up that season. How those clubs' fortunes have changed in my lifetime.

There were clubs waiting in the division below that came from places I'd never even heard of before, we played Fulham that season (think they went up) and I remember asking where they were from, was told London and then wondered why they weren't called "London United or something like that." Turned out there were many teams from London. Ah, the learning curve.

Everybody at my school was a Leeds, Liverpool, Man U or Newcastle fan at the time, nobody bothered with City, some kids hadn't even seen the ground. All I ever got was "why Hull City? They're rubbish!" Yeah, they were, but by that point they were my team and I was taught the value of supporting what you loved, not what was best. Maybe the two for me weren't mutually exclusive.

I guess my point is that those memories of going away to Mansfield, being yanked out of school to get a bus to Torquay, asbestos warnings at Roots Hall (Southend) and the toilets at Shrewsbury consisting of a wall and a drain that poured your piss directly into the river are some of the best times of my life and yet the current regime and state of the club has me more excited than those times, even more so than it was under Bruce in the Premier League, and those were heady heights indeed for this lad.

Throughout it all, the fans I was surrounded with were genuine, they were passionate and not all of them spent the afternoon hoarser than Paul O Grady after 20 Superkings. Although many of them will no doubt be gone, they set a marker that support was not about how loud your voice was, but about how you show support by any means possible, even if it's just waving a flag.

A lot of the social media fans are younger, so they take in a lot of foreign games from the Bundesliga and Seria A, where football culture is quite different and the support is all about display and showmanship. We won't ever have a Yellow (Amber) Wall like Dortmund do, probably won't have a Poznan like Lech (Leicester tried to nick it and it didn't last very long). I'd love us to have a "Welcome to Hull" banner in the style of Galatasaray when they played Man U and be as loud and boisterous as fans on the continent, but it just isn't going to happen. It just...isn't the British way. So when social media fans and those ****ing divs that post at the bottom of the HDM articles (seriously, fine to have an opinion, but Jesus was more optimistic as they were nailing his hands to the planks), they seem to see "success" as "Man City", good football as "Barca esque" and good support as "flares, banners and shouting". Not entirely their fault, the media does play it up, but I can see where it comes from and we need to remember that the kind of support they dream about isn't realistic and isn't Hull City.

There is every reason to be positive, we always need to look at the big picture, we've just had it worse, we've now got it better, we can't sulk because it isn't 100% perfect and we're not dicking teams every game. I think we'll finish 5th or 6th, but if we miss out, we've still made huge strides and I'd be optimistic about our chances of automatic promotion next season if we miss out this.
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Great post ST, I can resinate with this, my first came in 1957 and have only supported one club all my life. I did spend 15 years in Aberdeen working and went to Pittodrie to get my football fix, but it was never the same as supporting your home town club.

I guess that's why I am very much a glass half full poster, we have seen some ****e in our time, but we still enjoyed it, and what we have today is light years better than those days. Having said that, I wouldn't swap for those old experiences for all the tea in China.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
There is if it means banking 3 points in a game we haven't won yet. It's what leads people to get so outraged when it doesn't eventuate as happened against Swansea. Just take it one game at a time and don't take things for granted. When you're banking points and writing off points for the opposition and using that as a basis to look forward multiple games it becomes far too hypothetical. Reminds me of two seasons ago when everyone was insisting we could make the Top 6 and chucking bets on it, and I was urging restraint. What will be will be, let's beat Hudd.
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Especially as Huddersfield have hit some form since changing manager and even before last night's win had scored seven in two games compared to our 8 in 8. Factor in our shocking record at their place and I'd take a draw now.
 
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Cityzen said:
Good post. We may not ever get scenes like in Europe, too many Health and Safety fanatics here, but it is a fact a lot more of our fans could get behind the team vocally. Too many just sit there not even appealing decisions or reacting to onfield incidents.
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How does appealing decisions help? Do you think the ref is going to stop play and run over to the crowd VAR style and then correct himself having spoken to Alan in Seat 209 Row Q?

I sit there listening to people scream for a foul after a legitimate challenge on a City player, or call for a yellow card when a player has changed his mind on a throw going short or long thinking it is time wasting. Their blood pressure must be through the roof!! Some of it is down to people not understanding the rules but some of it seems to be learned behaviour and they are just shouting for the sake of it. I sit in the East/South Corner and somewhere at the back there is a bloke we all call 'seconds man'. He shouts nothing but 'switch' when we have the ball and 'seconds' when we win a header that goes into a mix. There are people laughing at him all over but he is still doing it like some 1980's pub team manager and seems obvlious to how daft it sounds. Now his mate next to him has got the same two catchphrases!

I'm all for getting behind the team, encouraging good play and trying to lift the lads when they need it but ref bashing is moronic. It serves only to make them more likely to go against us, conciously or sub conciously. They will never change their mind.

For me the key to atmosphere is placing the right people in the right areas and I think the club are starting to get there. The North stand isnt bad from where I sit and the other end of the East stand seems to be quite vocal too. As Stephen Toast said you are unlikley to ever replicate the type of atmosphere you see on the continent in the UK. I go in the Stretford end at Man Utd a fair bit and it is class in there but when I have been at the other end of the ground it sounds nothing like being amongst it. The West and South stand are never going to make noise, it has always been the same. A good away support helps too. I'd like to see something better to try and generate atmosphere pre- match. The DJ does nothing for me, Ben Rainey was great the first time but dont feel anything building with this current guy and the announcer doesnt seem to know how to generate excitement. I'd look at City warming up in front of the North Stand. Seperate the away team from their fans pre-match and get our players to try and pump up the crowd before they go in. When players run to our corner and ask for a reaction before the take the corner they get it. Even Acun could play a part, he can play the crowd as good as anyone. Singing a song with scarves in the air aint gonna frighten anyone I'm afraid. Look at the reaction the Turkish flags caused against Millwall, that type of thing does raise the volume.
 
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