17 1-0 wins will do for me will give us 96 points and +22 goals be no complaints from me 
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.Match Day Thread Hull City v Millwall
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Who said it needed to be instant, I think you'll also find I prased all the new signings performances after the game. But people more then entitled to say what they see and say it needs to improve as it has all season.... That isn't being negative
The liquid football we played for the first 15 minutes or so was fantastic to watch, then Millwall made some tactical changes and we didn't really respond to that.
I guess the pitch didn't help, but it was hardly a 1970s mid-winter quagmire.
We just didn't have anyone up top who could hold the ball up in the box and bring others into play - 20 minutes of Sharp at the end would have been a better twist than Ohio but I get that Liam wanted to blood him.
I don't find our style boring at all, but it can be frustrating when a promising attack down one of our flanks ends up, without the oppos touching the ball, with our keeper 10 seconds later.
Quite happy to see us go into cruise control when the games out of site, but it's a very dangerous game to play at 1-0. We have a very talented squad, take the hand break off, give them freedom and put games to bed.
Our style isn't boring if there's end product, but whether people like to admit it or not, fans want to see goals, shots in target, clear cut opportunities etc all the possession and passing stats in the world won't ever make up for lack of end product unfortunately. Put it all together and you have extremely exciting football, unfortunately if the end product isn't there it can look pedestrian/frustrating and yes boring at times.
I know people see the game differently, from what I am seeing there is progress IMO. I have always been a grass half full in life rather than half empty, so I always look for the positive side rather than the negative. I agree with you that we need to see more goalmouth action and with the new additions I am sure that will come, but we have to give them time to settle in.
If the opposition go ultra aggressively defensive, that makes it harder to create chances. After the 20 minute shoeing they got Millwall were bound to shut up shop a bit, and that exposed the fact that the new players didn’t quite yet have fluency that comes with experience of playing together. I think anyone disappointed on Saturday is being incredibly harsh.
There's definitely improvements, no doubting that. But also discussing the areas that are still frustrating and should/could improve on isn't being negative either.
This isn't aimed at you at all, but this board really seems to just label people negative the second they dare to discus things that aren't 100% positive or go against they way certain people see things.
I'm sure nobody is disappointed with a win. But yet again it doesn't mean people are negative just because they want to discuss areas of quite obvious improvement especially when those areas of improvement have been needed all season.
As one of his biggest critics it’s hard to not acknowledge the improvement and what he brings to the side, I still think having another Giles on the right would be far better but he’s certainly not a problem anymore.
Point taken, my reply was to Stevico about the negativity, I wasn't suggesting the board is full of negativity, I just felt to say he was bored in the 2nd half was rather harsh, I certainly wasn't bored, yes, I would have loved us to push on and get a 2nd, which if we had, I think we would have gone on to probably score more, but was equal impressed how we saw the game out. We had 4 players who haven't played much football, Jaden, Zaroury, Giles and Carvalho, who were going to run out of steam a bit, if I have a criticism maybe subs could have been used earlier.
I think it's an incredibly exciting time to be a City fan.
The squad we've assembled for the next 20 matches has the potential to be amazing. Hopefully they'll take that opportunity to shine.
If they play like we did for the first 20 minutes against Millwall for whole games, then we will make it 20 more games and finish with a win in the final one at Wembley.
If its only in dribs and brabs we could finish anywhere from 6th to 11th IMHO.
I really hope the squad gels and excels and shows everyone just how good they are. [HASHTAG]#UTT[/HASHTAG]
The squad we've assembled for the next 20 matches has the potential to be amazing. Hopefully they'll take that opportunity to shine.
If they play like we did for the first 20 minutes against Millwall for whole games, then we will make it 20 more games and finish with a win in the final one at Wembley.
If its only in dribs and brabs we could finish anywhere from 6th to 11th IMHO.
I really hope the squad gels and excels and shows everyone just how good they are. [HASHTAG]#UTT[/HASHTAG]
I recon that if the lob over the keeper had dropped in then there would have been a change in the way we were playing. Can't remember which games but a few times we have had to go for it in the last 20 mins and the opposition hardly got into our half, on sat we hardly got out of ours.
You don’t need to be so defensive. I was extending the conversation, not launching an attack**.
** which ended up being rolled back to Allsop, obvz
I think that's the point I'm trying to make though, we wouldn't need to change the way we play etc if that lobs goes in if we are 3-0 up for example. But just sitting in a 1-0 lead is extremely dangerous. We have the talent, so go for the jugular and make things comfy for us. We are ( at times ) way to cautious, way to slow and show a lack of cutting edge. As you say....when we need to go for it we can and we more often then not score goals, add that to the fact that most our goals come from passages of play where we take the handbrake off, attack with tempo/speed and transition quickly. I personally don't see why we don't see it more often, especially when we are against a team that can't handle it.
I'm not saying this is the case by any means, but we sometimes come across as a team that's afraid of losing possession and conceding so we take the safe pass/option as opposed to a team that has to confidence to make the difficult pass that would create something and really open up the opposition..... I'm sure it will come in time, in fact it has to if we really want to see promotion
I never said lump it, but if you're going to play without a number 9 where is the outlet for forward play with pace? 2 shots at home including the goal is pathetic, time after time I called out goalie because that’s all we did all 2nd half, pass it back to him, if you see attractive football in that, then you have a very high tolerance for mediocrity.
Most of the championship is poor this year, we are one of the lowest scorers despite signing players most teams would kill for, we have a goal difference of 5, so I suggest although we may well pass teams to death as someone said, but there’s no end result, we don’t score enough and we let too many in to be seriously considered for promotion, this may well change and I hope it does.
Acun wants the Premier league and wants it soon, maybe this season, I don’t believe Rosenior can deliver that.
I didn't know scoring more goals than 14 teams means we're 'one of the lowest scorers'. Outside of the top 4 only Norwich, Watford and Cov have scored more than us and we've played a game less than all three of those sides.
.Not for one minute is Liam telling the team to not attack but just see the game out for 60minutes- those players will be told to do whatever they can to score and win comfortably but yet with no out and out strikers on the pitch we struggle to find a finisher because there isn’t one ATM , It needs just one player to move well in the box or Jaden to shoot or pass it quicker and we are in . Our main issue is failing to counter quickly often enough, on Saturday for the first time we moved it wide quicker than we’ve done all season - because we have the right players - this will get even better . It seems the injured strikers are ignored time and again on this theme , if teams set out to spoil , niggle and foul and sit deep it is hard for anyone to break down . Players should have an absolute will to score because they should want to be the hero and get the praise no matter where they play . It seems that we ran out of steam before Millwall did it they weren’t doing much running as they were stuck in their half , they brought mobile subs on before us which tipped the game towards them . Maybe we should have too .