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Jordan Henderson

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  1. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    It’s being reported in a few places. No idea of how it works but seemingly by deferring his payments for a year he could avoid a big tax bill. I’m sure he had enough in the bank to tidy him over until that point.
     
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    Easier to be taxed on it and keep some than avoid tax by getting **** all surely?

    A bit fishy like!
     
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  3. Dancingstripes

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    Ruined his career legacy by having 6 months in Saudi Arabia? Not to me he hasn’t.

    Do you also apply that logic to Christiano ronaldo, Karim benzema, Steven Gerrard, Tyson fury, Anthony Joshua, Alexander Uysk, deontay wilder? Who all are currently on the payroll of the Saudis.

    Also let’s not forget every player from every country who played at last years World Cup in Qatar. A tournament built on slave labour in a country that shares very similar laws and views as Saudi Arabia?

    How about the worlds elite golfers? Have they been stripped of legacy too?

    I think it’s disgraceful some of our supporters turning their back on one of our own. He’s represented us exemplary over the years. But 6 months in Saudi Arabia and his legacy is destroyed?

    Get a grip.
     
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  4. GreyHorse

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    It comes down to residency for tax. If he is in UK for more than 6 months of the tax year, his worldwide income (incl Saudi income) will be subject to UK tax. He could offset any Saudi tax paid (which would prob be bugger all), leaving a liability to HMRC.

    If he stays out of the country for more than half the tax year, he could declare himself a non resident and just pay the relevant taxes in the countries he works.

    Dont think the deferring of the cash is relevant, as it will go on when it was earned not when it was paid.
     
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  5. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Morning.

    That’s interesting. Thanks for the explanation.

    Does your avatar and name suggest you love your horse racing, or just horses in general?
     
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  6. Bazza2310

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    Well said
     
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  7. Nacho

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    I absolutely do apply the same logic to all the people you named including all the golfers who willingly took Saudi money. I didn't watch a single minute of the Qatar World Cup.

    Just because lots of people are doing it doesn't mean it's fine.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    This.
     
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    And again<ok>
     
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    And dead again
     
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    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    I could understand anybody going to Saudi for the money. I'm not happy about it but I understand it. But what sticks in my throat about Henderson was the pedestal he placed himself on as the champion of equal rights, a figurehead of what little of the good is left in football. He quicky jumped off of it when the £££ were wafted under his nose. And then you have the NUFC/Saudi link on top of that!!!? Honestly, I thought he was the last, and I mean the last, footballer I'd have expected to play over there.
     
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    This :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  13. Nacho

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    Yeah there are varying degrees to it and what you say about Henderson is why he's at the worse end of the spectrum for me.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    Fair do's marra, everyone's opinions are welcome here.
     
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    To be fair on Henderson and every other top premier league player.

    These causes, wether it’s gay rights, racism, diversity, women’s rights, are shoved down their throats constantly. They are asked about these issues time after time in interviews, and they know 1 wrong word could potentially end their careers.

    You say he’s placed himself as the champion of equal rights, but as Liverpool and England captain, he probably didn’t have much choice. From taking the knee, to rainbow laces and armbands, kick it out warm up t shirts. Plus endless interviews asking him about every woke subject, all nothing to do with football.

    As Liverpool and England captain he’s probably been asked to figurehead an equal rights movement and he’s accepted. Saying no could be career damaging in this day and age.

    If hendo was captain of Liverpool and England 30 years ago, I’d have everything I own on him having nothing to do with these issues and just concentrating on his football.

    He’s a victim of the times unfortunately, your dammed if you do, your dammed if you don’t.
     
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    Few quotes I agree with from this article:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68013445

    "Jordan Henderson's hasty retreat from Saudi Arabia to Ajax concludes a miserable episode in a previously exemplary career - one which had been conducted with a sure touch up until last July."

    "The past six months have damaged Henderson's reputation, particularly over his commitment to LGBTQ+ causes he had previously championed."

    "It is hard to argue that this is not a desperately poor look all round."

    "It is hard to believe the man who enjoyed success at Anfield will look back with anything other than huge regret at his decision to follow the money trail to Saudi Arabia"

    "Henderson was not forced out of Liverpool."

    "Blackpool's Jake Daniels, who in May 2022 became the first active professional in the UK men's game to come out since Justin Fashanu 32 years earlier, received a private message of support on his social media account from Henderson at the time.

    Daniels told the BBC's Newsbeat in November: "He was backing me and said: 'We're proud of what you've done.' Seeing him move to Saudi, it kind of like, slaps me in my face really. But I guess the money pays well and money must mean more to some people."

    Liverpool supporter Keith Spooner, who came out as gay when he was 17, said he was "gutted" by Henderson's move to Saudi Arabia"
     
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    This is looking more and more realistic with each passing day and I am all for it.

    I feel like the expectation for us in this window is to continue recruiting young and mostly from abroad where the markets are a little cheaper, so it would be sensible to also make an Alan Browne/Cory Evans type signing to maintain a balance in experience, especially in terms of Premier League experience which we are woefully lacking in.

    Jordan to sign a 2-year contract in June and he will shine as our number 4 (bracewell version).
     
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    It's not so much him playing there. I've worked in the Middle East myself, though under sufferance at the time.

    It was the pedestal he seemed to enjoy being on. He was a high enough profile bloke to be asked questions about the various issues he championed, but he was more than keen to be go further, even at one point implying that people who did not kneel down at the appropriate time were " part of the problem".

    I very much doubt if he has the legs anyway, and we will need everyone running next season.
     
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