Another one who just doesn’t understand the process
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Match Day Thread Hull City v Norwich
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100%agree....he gets a lot of praise and hype on here and twitter but he's got less in the locker than lokilo
Disagree. Vaughan is not the answer but Lokilo is no more a right winger than Jeremy Corbyn
Think they were more concerned with the elbow on LC which they agreed was a straight red....
They are both equally ****.
Lokilo was a punt, it's gone wrong. He is poor on so many levels.
But all this hype for Vaughan is ridiculous. He has no pace (which wingers should have), no strength (required for football), or any tricks (to compensate for lack of first 2 attributes).
Injuries...Inundated with them!!
Ref...**** off,never in his born days!!
Possession...Never had as much as we're having lately but we're struggling to put the ball in the onion bag!!
All of this adds up to a pretty sh!tty/unfortunate run of form
Errrr,one more thing(anyone visualising Peter Falk,cigar in hand?).
We can justifiably blame all of the above,all valid,all fair BUT....
Is it normal to let a 5'8" 20 year old kid(albeit a tricky kid),waltz through 5 or 6 players and poke one,off balance and the ball under his feet,past a flailing goalkeeper who really should be getting a hand to it?
I'll guarantee here and now that the lad won't get another goal like it this season!!! Reason being,he'd be dispossessed fairly or put on his arse 25 yards out.
Ref...**** off,never in his born days!!
Possession...Never had as much as we're having lately but we're struggling to put the ball in the onion bag!!
All of this adds up to a pretty sh!tty/unfortunate run of form
Errrr,one more thing(anyone visualising Peter Falk,cigar in hand?).
We can justifiably blame all of the above,all valid,all fair BUT....
Is it normal to let a 5'8" 20 year old kid(albeit a tricky kid),waltz through 5 or 6 players and poke one,off balance and the ball under his feet,past a flailing goalkeeper who really should be getting a hand to it?
I'll guarantee here and now that the lad won't get another goal like it this season!!! Reason being,he'd be dispossessed fairly or put on his arse 25 yards out.
Injuries...Inundated with them!!
Ref...**** off,never in his born days!!
Possession...Never had as much as we're having lately but we're struggling to put the ball in the onion bag!!
All of this adds up to a pretty sh!tty/unfortunate run of form
Errrr,one more thing(anyone visualising Peter Falk,cigar in hand?).
We can justifiably blame all of the above,all valid,all fair BUT....
Is it normal to let a 5'8" 20 year old kid(albeit a tricky kid),waltz through 5 or 6 players and poke one,off balance and the ball under his feet,past a flailing goalkeeper who really should be getting a hand to it?
I'll guarantee here and now that the lad won't get another goal like it this season!!! Reason being,he'd be dispossessed fairly or put on his arse 25 yards out.
And yet some people think we don't need a no nonsense tough tackling midfielder
Andy Hinchcliffe on co-coms for Sky said it was just a coming together and said Connolly did not foul the keeper in the slightest. Unlucky to have the free kick go against him.
Everybody on the broadcast agreed the other incident was a red card.
Well if two of our ‘best’ players run alongside him for twenty yards and our two defenders let him run at them without challenge it’s what you get - we keep repeating these poor decisions by individuals it’s not the boss’s fault .Injuries...Inundated with them!!
Ref...**** off,never in his born days!!
Possession...Never had as much as we're having lately but we're struggling to put the ball in the onion bag!!
All of this adds up to a pretty sh!tty/unfortunate run of form
Errrr,one more thing(anyone visualising Peter Falk,cigar in hand?).
We can justifiably blame all of the above,all valid,all fair BUT....
Is it normal to let a 5'8" 20 year old kid(albeit a tricky kid),waltz through 5 or 6 players and poke one,off balance and the ball under his feet,past a flailing goalkeeper who really should be getting a hand to it?
I'll guarantee here and now that the lad won't get another goal like it this season!!! Reason being,he'd be dispossessed fairly or put on his arse 25 yards out.
Andy Hinchcliffe needs to Google the word 'assault' and come back with something a bit more realistic...He's halved Connolly in two!
Missed Philogene, seri and Delap enormously, pace was lost when Connerly went off, Any side without the parachute payments would miss their top players massively. Last night says to me we have a team especially with the addition of Carvalho to be around the top six unfortunately though we don’t have a squad good enough for the top six.
Injuries...Inundated with them!!
Ref...**** off,never in his born days!!
Possession...Never had as much as we're having lately but we're struggling to put the ball in the onion bag!!
All of this adds up to a pretty sh!tty/unfortunate run of form
Errrr,one more thing(anyone visualising Peter Falk,cigar in hand?).
We can justifiably blame all of the above,all valid,all fair BUT....
Is it normal to let a 5'8" 20 year old kid(albeit a tricky kid),waltz through 5 or 6 players and poke one,off balance and the ball under his feet,past a flailing goalkeeper who really should be getting a hand to it?
I'll guarantee here and now that the lad won't get another goal like it this season!!! Reason being,he'd be dispossessed fairly or put on his arse 25 yards out.
I think this was our biggest mistake and it's one of the biggest weaknesses in our game. I bang on about ruthlessness in terms of finishing and how other teams punish us more than we do them, and this is part of it. We never get that sort of space, we get fouled all the time when we break away, we had multiple opportunities to challenge or foul Rowe but we let him go. Tufan tried to get him but completely missed.
In hindsight it's obvious that it was one of their only attacks of the game and we should have just taken a yellow if necessary, but I think in the moment we don't realise the importance of these moments. We don't take those moments seriously enough, especially early on, it's like we think there'll always be time and we're in control so it's all good, and then inevitably they score and suddenly we have an uphill battle for the rest of the game.
Or sometimes it's at the other end; we miss what turns out to be our best chance of the game and we're relatively relaxed about it, but later on you think that was the one we really should've buried. I wonder if it's a side effect of playing in such a calm and controlled way, that psychologically we lack a bit of mental urgency in the key moments where it's needed.
I think this even applies to the crowd, every game we're always frantic and loud at the end when we need a goal, but we're quiet at the start and don't get too frustrated about an early miss or an early bad decision like last night, the ref got off lightly with that Connolly one because there'd been no drama yet at that point and the crowd wasn't annoyed yet, so we sort of moaned a little bit but we should have given him absolute hell for that decision.
Bit of a rant but I do think these things in a way might all be connected.
For me the problem is quite obvious and has been most the season. We’re playing without any width. Wingers that aren’t wingers playing on the wing, but not playing like wingers (Lokilo included) and full backs who don’t really overlap and get to the byline and/or into the box.
Coyle, Greaves etc do a job, play well, defend well, and if you’ve got players like Philogene in front it works fine. When you’ve got Twine or Traore in front, not so much. The flank just becomes little more than somewhere to pass the ball to rather than an actual functional attacking threat.
Honestly can’t really remember the last time someone made a surging run into the box from the side of the 18 yard box, or got behind the defence to the byline and cut the ball back, that wasn’t Philogene or Delap. Has any other player done it this season, even once?
As a result, all our play is passing it around across the pitch in front of their defence who have all the time in the world to get themselves into shape and thus we struggle to create tap ins or genuinely good opportunities with a clear sight of goal and ample time and space to finish them properly rather than snatch at them. We very rarely take the opportunity to break and catch the opponents defenders out of position, even when a player carries the ball up the pitch a bit, the norm is to stop and play it back into midfield. We are currently missing the only 2 players (Delap and Philogene) who ever really do that anyway.
Over and over again it’s the same old story.
Coyle, Greaves etc do a job, play well, defend well, and if you’ve got players like Philogene in front it works fine. When you’ve got Twine or Traore in front, not so much. The flank just becomes little more than somewhere to pass the ball to rather than an actual functional attacking threat.
Honestly can’t really remember the last time someone made a surging run into the box from the side of the 18 yard box, or got behind the defence to the byline and cut the ball back, that wasn’t Philogene or Delap. Has any other player done it this season, even once?
As a result, all our play is passing it around across the pitch in front of their defence who have all the time in the world to get themselves into shape and thus we struggle to create tap ins or genuinely good opportunities with a clear sight of goal and ample time and space to finish them properly rather than snatch at them. We very rarely take the opportunity to break and catch the opponents defenders out of position, even when a player carries the ball up the pitch a bit, the norm is to stop and play it back into midfield. We are currently missing the only 2 players (Delap and Philogene) who ever really do that anyway.
Over and over again it’s the same old story.
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I agree Seri might have fouled him but we've lost plenty of games like that with him in the team recently. He isn't the midfield enforcer we need.
Lincoln Tiger
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Apologies for the repetition as I posted this on the MOTM board but ... I may off message here, and I get what Rosey is trying to do, but once again this season I've seen us 'softened up' by opposing sides. Rosey describe it as 'slowing down the game' but I think sides come here set up to give us a bit of a kicking and then play some football. On these boards I've seen (Kalman - I think amongst others) suggesting that we sign a big hard DM - someone who can dish it out. I know Ian Ashbee and Pete Skipper types don't grow on trees, but I seriously think for this mainly young side to go forward, we really need that type of player on the pitch. I know Chazz sort of lamented the loss of Richie Smallwood - and perhaps he wasn't up to the standard in terms of overall play, but I am pretty sure one or two of the Norwich players would have left the pitch with a bruise or two had he been on the pitch. I am not advocating dirty play, but I am advocating letting sides know what they are dealing with, if they come set up to do it. I seriously believe that opposing coaches/managers have us worked out in this sense. Rant over...UTT
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Really rattles my cage how much of a charity case we are when it comes to dishing out points, that’s their first win in 4. Sigh.