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Daily Racing Thread Friday 15th. December 2023

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  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Friday's Meetings

    Doncaster
    N/H 8 Races 11:25-3:22p.m.
    Cheltenham
    N/H 7 Races 12:05-3:35p.m.
    Bangor-on-Dee
    N/H 7 Races 12:20-3-42p.m.
    Dundalk(E)
    A/W 8 Races 4:45-8:15p.m.
    Southwell(E)
    A/W 8 Races 5:00-8:30p.m.

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    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. Pilgrim

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    Cheltenham
    13,50 Walk In Clover 6/1 WH, Lads and Coral
    15,00 Gesskille 5/1 Lads and Coral, 9/2 others
     
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    Cheltenham
    13,15 Donnacha 17/2 e/w WH four places, 8/1 others
     
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    3.42 Bangor, a question for Stick. What’s your thoughts on Mivvi? Looks to be an extremely rare runner on NH flat for Stella Barclay.
     
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  5. stick

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    Everything about the pedigree screams non-stayer, after the first mile it will be on fumes. Probably too backward or too slow to have appeared on the flat. It is a rare bumper runner for the yard but she nought from eight so even that is not a positive.
     
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  6. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Has the forum's favourite yard got a Supreme Novices Hurdle contender in Dysart Enos? We'll find out in a few minutes time. I really hope they have <ok>
     
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  7. floridaspearl

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    I fancy tritonic at a price at Cheltenham.
     
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    A couple of quid ew on soldante in the opener.
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Very, very nice from Dysart Enos. Only one slight moment of worry when you wondered whether she would find anything off the bridle but she quickened up in good style.
     
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  10. SwanHills

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    The 13:30 at Bangor-On-Dee, a Class-3 Handicap Chase over 3m on heavy ground, gives the Mores Wells gelding, Tiger Orchid, a sound chance. Current conditions will suit. Wears cheek-pieces. Charlie Hammond rides for the Droitwich yard of Dr Richard Newland & Jamie Insole.

    8/1 in many places, best price at time of writing. E/W best option.
     
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  11. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I know nothing about bumpers stick but, in general, how fast do they go compared to a flat race on the same ground. I only ask because when considering a Derby horse, for example, we often conclude a horse won't stay the 12f and are correct virtually every time. But what we really mean is that it won't last out the 12f at the speed they will go; it will obviously stay the 12f but in its own time, so to speak. If you have a 10f horse in a 12f race, the only chance it has is to have a slowly run race and tap the others for speed at the end. Hence, and I'm in need of educating here, if a horse with class breeding is allowed to saunter along at a leisurely pace in a 2 mile race, might it not have the advantage when it comes to who can finish the fastest? I'm assuming the horse has a decent lay back of shoulder, otherwise it will be ****ed anyhow after 12f. I stress I'm not trying to give that horse a chance, just wondering to what extent is the relevance of pedigree in bumpers (especially a class pedigree). I recall a long time ago I think one of the GN winners was sired by a sprinter. If it didn't win, it was an out and out stayer well fancied to win. That is going to bug me now and I'll have to try and find the bloody thing <laugh>
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Mr Snugfit, 2nd to Last Suspect with Corbierre 3rd. Sired by Jukebox (sired by Sing Sing who was sired by Tudor Minstrel). No wonder I remembered as I had the winner at 66/1, and it only just got up on the line
     
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  13. OddDog

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    This looks a really good novice chase next up at Cheltenham. I love Grey Dawning as he just goes out wearing his heart on his sleeve so I hope he can improve again to take this.
     
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    Nice ew return.
     
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  15. SwanHills

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    Like the chance of Gyenyame in the finalé at Cheltenham (15:35), over a distance just short of 3m on soft ground. Brendon Powell rides for the Joe Tizzard stable.

    5/1 (Ladbrokes/BetVictor) best price at time of writing.
     
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    Sue smiths horses seem to be hitting form at the moment
     
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  17. floridaspearl

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    Backed the jolly and bit bit of Brianna rose
     
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    Boom.
     
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    Mr Skelton, would you be so kind as to step into the stewards' room?
     
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  20. floridaspearl

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    The horse obviously needs to be delivered late but gave himself to much to do.used to much juice getting there. The winner looks good.
     
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