We were told his remit was to improve our position THIS season, how does that involve 2 transfer windows and a pre season? He doesn’t need to remove dead wood as Nige did, why allow him as long as Nige, when apparently we already have a squad able to reach top 6?. It’s a completely different scenario. If we don’t make the playoffs this season why did we appoint him? Even our lunatic board concede with Nige we were likely to finish top 10 this season, which for them wasn’t good enough.
It was Nige’s choice to let then go for free you say, so you tell me, who would have bought them? Did anyone offer anything for them?, did we ever turn down an offer? . The answer is NO. Tell me any other manager in our recent history that sold £35m worth of players and had none of the proceeds for new players? You are seriously suggesting we didn’t finish high enough up the league in either of the seasons he was with us?, I don’t remember in our recent history an occasion where we reset to such an extent without being relegated, we all made predictions of where we’d finish and Nige managed to reach our expectations, granted he didn’t exceed then, but he did manage to finish roughly where we thought he should. That’s why on the whole most fans were relatively happy with our progress and why we weren’t calling for his head. If what you say was true do you genuinely feel the fan base would have not been calling for a change, sorry RoD but that’s nonsense.
Let’s be honest, Nige was sacked because he fell out with JL. It was absolutely not because we didn’t finish high enough in the seasons he was in charge, or even that he was underperforming this season. We all know it. But, JL doesn’t have the balls to admit it, and BT is a brown nose and only interested in making himself look good to the owners to say it. Because JL concocted some daft excuse he has put LM in an impossible position. The person/people we should be criticising aren’t NP, or LM, it’s JL & BT. Personally I won’t be happy till both of them are as far away from OUR club as possible. Rant over, I fell much better now
Nigel also had a lot better players when he joined to when he left, they weren’t all deadwood, some of them were just on expensive contracts. the reason most left without a fee was due to COVID hitting finances, a lot of them found other clubs pretty quickly, with quite a few ending up at clubs that fared a lot better than City since… and a couple played in World Cups and Euro Championships. I think you’ve defeated you own argument about the quality of the current squad in other posts, so I think LM has as much, if not more deadwood to move on than Nige did to be honest.
If we’ve as much deadwood now, how come we’ve a top 10, or possibly top 6 squad, why was NP sacked for underachieving with this squad?, why did both BT & JT say we’ve the best squad we’ve had for years?, sorry that’s just plain nonsense
If JL had balls, he would have said our relationship with NP has broken down beyond repair, we feel in the best interests of the club we need to part company. He may have still got flak from a fan base that on the whole like NP, but he got that anyway because no one bought the pathetic excuse he gave. However the new manager wouldn’t have been under so much pressure to achieve success as quickly, JL was too cowardly to admit NP was leaving because he JL didn’t want him here anymore. The consequence of that cowardly decision means LM is getting grief for something that was not of his making.
Well mid season and near the top as we were... shouldnt need to much as / as much because the position we were in was keeping up with the rest of the contenders and we had 3 or 4 good players out awaiting recall! He should be able to fine tune what we had if we are to believe our position game 15 was truly indicative to being 10th after 15 games 4 pts [ and 3 teams between us ] off 6th and 11 pts above bottom 3 now we are 4 pts off 6th but 3 teams on 30 pts! [ 7 teams between us ] in 14th but just 7 pts above relegation zone!
I must admit I lost track of Cotts after he was sacked by Shrewsbury, so I have absolutely no idea…..
Read on OTIB by quite a few sensible posters, JL and BT never actually said top six. It was the other one that actually said he thinks promotion is the aim. What was actually said is top end, us lot took that as meaning top six.
Bottom line people JL wanted NP gone. NP told JL plenty of home truths and JL did not like it. Nothing to do football wise -Personality clash and unfortunately NP lost his job. 95% of the fan base wanted Nigel to take us on. Under the Lansdowns for me all the good work over the last three years has been wasted and we go back to a typical Bristol City appointment in a guy that has no experience at this level and has all to prove. For me the fact JL said LM has to get us up the table that started straight from when he took the job. Clearly after 5 games that ain’t happening. JL wanted an immediate improvement that has not happened as yet.
I read OTIB as well, and frankly that’s nonsense, if that’s the case what was the board’s reason for sacking Nige?, read it again. The sensible posters you quote on OTIB agree with me.
Agree with everything you say, however I have a slightly different take on the reason LM has to do well straight away. It’s completely down to JL bottling giving the real reason for NP dismissal and trying to dress it up as performance related, it wasn’t. Had he been truthful and said it was due to differences between himself and Nige, at least LM wouldn’t have been forced into the ridiculous position that he finds himself. Rod and other’s question why some fans expect LM to do well quickly, I understand where he’s coming from, but again it was JL and BT that sold the decision to bring in LM in that manner. We are merely attempting to make JL and BT accountable for their supposed reason for the change.
I’ve not seen anything proving it was actually said. Most on there would agree with you. They’ve still not got over that Nige has gone and pin onto the hope he will return. We know you’ve lost the plot when you’re agreeing with RR
He actually made a lot of sense. Why would I not agree with him? I agree with most of your points too, and I see your point about giving Manning time. Where we differ is I believe JL & BT should be held accountable for their decisions, not for NP’s sake, but the clubs sake. We are where we are but I can’t just sweep under the carpet how amateur SL & BT were, and remain.
I don’t really care about the past. I hated a lot of things the clubs done or appointed but to me it’s still my club so I just go along with it. What I do like and seeing it in glimpses is this new way of playing and organising of players. We just need them to stay with it for 90 minutes as we are still making errors.
Whatever the injustice of the Nige sacking, and the idiotic posturing and statements achieved by Lansdown Jnr, the simple fact is the old regime of Nige is over, Liam Manning is our new boss, none of what hppened is down to him, he deserves all the support we can give him, he most certainly has mine, I'm not waiting on judgements I just want the guy to succeed, time will tell, just get on with the job LM we are with you.
