WAR! What is it good for?

[Welshie]

It's ****ed up

death sentence to stay, a death sentence to be moved

and to where ?

The south, where people are fighting over bags of flour

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

It's ****ed up

death sentence to stay, a death sentence to be moved

and to where ?

Hell is nice this time of year.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

@PINKIE I'll give you an example of a highly contentious issue that has scuppered numerous peace talks, that nevertheless could be realised both in theory and in practice, and that is the establishment of a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem.

 

[PINKIE]

This is never, ever happening. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Israel simply will not allow it's population to almost double overnight with the influx of 4 million Palestinians.

And there is no use invoking the passage of time. The more time goes past, the larger the Palestinian diaspora becomes. Give it 10 years and that number will top 5 million. Back when the Right to Return was first introduced, it was 50,000.

I admire your optimism and idealism, but you need to live in the real world.

It's not my bubble

It's the stated wish of the Palestinian refugees.

It's convenient for Israel to say it can never happen. Therefore Palestinians must accept greatly reduced aims.

The conflict will never end until these basic tenants are met.

It is of course the moral and just thing to aim for.

 

[Welshie]

Hell is nice this time of year.

Well, I am so glad we have some balance in this thread now

 

[Libby]

It's not my bubble

It's the stated wish of the Palestinian refugees.

It's convenient for Israel to say it can never happen. Therefore Palestinians must accept greatly reduced aims.

The conflict will never end until these basic tenants are met.

It is of course the moral and just thing to aim for.

Reckon the right to return is even less realistic than your tourism idea tbh.

 

[PINKIE]

@PINKIE I'll give you an example of a highly contentious issue that has scuppered numerous peace talks, that nevertheless could be realised both in theory and in practice, and that is the establishment of a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem.

This is what I mean by pragmatism, and steps towards an overall solution that is equitable for both sides

Small steps maybe

But the world should not lose sight of the bigger picture, or allow Israel to deny Palestine it's rights because it's 'too difficult'

I understand and agree that pragmatism has to be the conduit by which this done.

 

[PINKIE]

Reckon the right to return is even less realistic than your tourism idea tbh.

Gaza had built a water park

So it's possible

 

[Welshie]

This is what I mean by pragmatism, and steps towards an overall solution that is equitable for both sides

Small steps maybe

But the world should not lose sight of the bigger picture, or allow Israel to deny Palestine it's rights because it's 'too difficult'

I understand and agree that pragmatism has to be the conduit by which this done.

Nothing to do with difficult.

If it get's heated they literally bomb the living ****ing **** out of one another.

They aren't nervous about a housing crisis they're concerned about a dead children crisis.

 

[brb]

Reckon the right to return is even less realistic than your tourism idea tbh.

 

[Welshie]

Gaza had built a water park

So it's possible

Thought you was messing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Water_Park



Crazy indeed

 

[PINKIE]

Nothing to do with difficult.

If it get's heated they literally bomb the living ****ing **** out of one another.

They aren't nervous about a housing crisis they're concerned about a dead children crisis.

That's the current status quo aye.

It will need leaders in the mould of Arafat / Peres / Rabin again to engineer and implement the kind of future the region needs.

 

[PINKIE]

Thought you was messing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Water_Park



Crazy indeed

See what I mean what seems to be 'pie in the sky' was actually happening.

Of course the current situation is miles from the ideal

But you have to have idealism and a vision, otherwise the situation will remain eternally ****ed.

 

[Welshie]

That's the current status quo aye.

It will need leaders in the mould of Arafat / Peres / Rabin again to engineer and implement the kind of future the region needs.

Just bring back the Kingdom of Jerusalem

Region was more at peace with one another with a bunch of crusaders in charge

 

[Libby]

Gaza had built a water park

So it's possible

Probably be rubble within a month or two mind.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Thought you was messing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Water_Park



Crazy indeed

That first paragraph is wild.

 

[Welshie]

That first paragraph is wild.

"Crazy Water Aqua Fun Park was a water park in the Gaza Strip that served the territory's small wealthy class.[1] The park opened in May 2010 and was burned down by masked men in September 2010, after being closed by the Palestinian Hamas de facto government for allowing men and women to mingle."

Explain yourself NOW @PINKIE

 

[PINKIE]

Probably be rubble within a month or two mind.

As long as Derek and Wendy can still get a Margarita it'll be fine

 

[PINKIE]

"Crazy Water Aqua Fun Park was a water park in the Gaza Strip that served the territory's small wealthy class.[1] The park opened in May 2010 and was burned down by masked men in September 2010, after being closed by the Palestinian Hamas de facto government for allowing men and women to mingle."

Explain yourself NOW @PINKIE

Yeah that Hamas tourist board strategy needs a rethink

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

"Crazy Water Aqua Fun Park was a water park in the Gaza Strip that served the territory's small wealthy class.[1] The park opened in May 2010 and was burned down by masked men in September 2010, after being closed by the Palestinian Hamas de facto government for allowing men and women to mingle."

Explain yourself NOW @PINKIE

To be fair to Hamas they allowed people to keep using the diving board as soon as they’d drained the pool.