He had been here over half a season when we decided to take him on a permanent so we have had plenty of time to look at him. He wasn’t playing at the time then and it seemed an odd thing to do to sign him full time. It would be extremely odd for him to have joined us as a development project for the reason listed previously. He must have been expecting to start playing and never did. He is definitely in a much worse position now than he was this time last summer. Maybe he did decide it would be better to be a hull city development player than a Chelsea development player and we haven’t shafted him at all but I highly doubt that.
Rightly or wrongly it seems to be the Doncaster game that convinced Rosenior he wasn't ready. Maybe he saw something we didn't, maybe Rosenior's being a **** just for the sake of it, or maybe he just wants Simons to get some game time. Football can certainly appear ruthless at times.
My take on the transfer window is: Its not perfect. We are probably one or two proven Championship players short of the promotion pack. But who has had a perfect transfer window? Oscar leaving without replacement is not ideal - but unlike last year we have players fit and available that can be selected and do a different kind of job to him. They may look at that problem again in January if needed. I'm looking forward to seeing how well we do and if its not at least top half and more likely top 10 I'll be disappointed and then really start thinking about if we do have the right coaching staff for the future. Some spent all summer banging on about signing a DM and then we do and they aren't happy about it. I'd rather have Morton who has a year experience in a good side in this league than someone from abroad who's never played English football. Equally as mentioned I can't understand why some were happy to place all their faith in Simons from the limited view we've had. This thread has been constantly interesting but not always for the right reasons. I don't see anyone saying that decisions can't be questioned or that every thing Acun or Rosie say or do can't be discussed, but the constant need to disparage how well the club is performing to me feels absurd. For example, calling Rosie 'motormouth' is so odd to me, especially when he's done a half-decent job so far (and now we can really start judging him with more of his players in the side). The black and white nature of 'we are signing LOADS of good youngsters, we are going to be so good based on our stats' v 'they clearly have no idea what they are doing because we haven't blown the budget on XXX' feels so detrimental after a bruising few years under the Allams. I'll probably get called all sorts for this post but bloody hell. Have some of you got high blood pressure?
I’ve heard similar things from several people, including another poster on here. Won’t go into detail though as a lot of it was told in confidence and some have jobs at the club or are affiliated in some way or other.
But why should he just expect a starting berth? Like anyone else he should have to earn his place in the team. I hope he has a great loan and comes back to us ready to seriously challenge for a starting spot - but it shouldn't just be handed to him because he came from Chelsea.
I highly doubt he’s sat smoking a *** leaning on the bar saying I should have a place in the team Let’s see what the gaffer says said:"I’m absolutely delighted to tie Xavier down on a long-term deal. "We’ve worked really hard to get Xavi to commit his future to the club and he’s a big part of my plans. "He’s got undoubted potential and quality, an outstanding attitude and trains at 100% all the time. "He’s got Premier League physicality and athleticism. If we can help him improve his technical aspects and tactical understanding of the game, we’ve got a fantastic asset for the club." so he’ll have no idea how to develop as rosenior wants as he’s not here for a year we signed him cos we thought he’s good enough to play Not a permanent fixture in the team But bringing him on with sub appearances and filling in when injured in an area we are short in ah well
Me neither but like I said, I’ve been told similar things and the reasons why by several people but I won’t go into more detail out of respect for them. There are also players who are very happy and settled by all accounts.
I would have kept him in the squad for this reason. Maybe either he or Rosie or both thought he'd be better off playing somewhere else every week?
He’s clearly better off playing elsewhere as I don’t see a pathway into the team for him other than in an absolute crisis. All I’m saying is there’s no way he’s swapped his situation at Chelsea to be in the same situation here. It just doesn’t happen that way round, we poach development projects from the likes of Oldham and Southend, and the likes of Chelsea take them from us. So clearly for him to have signed here permanently we must have been leading him on that he was going to be getting first team games, otherwise why else would he bother? I think he’d only made one appearance when we decided to take him on as well hadn’t he or a bare spattering of minutes at most. He was an invisible man like Vale or M’Hand yet bizarrely we decided to sign this one on a permanent.
Or maybe he realized that with around 50 first team squad players and countless youngsters out on loan his best option to further his career - in football as opposed to cash terms - would be to leave Chelsea. (I'm not arguing that his career has furthered - perhaps it has stalled). Also we don't know what his agent was telling him to do - while no doubt thinking of his cut. I don't know about leading him on - maybe we said if he proved himself in training he'd get his chance or something like that. Maybe it was just last years circumstances (possible relegation) or maybe he just isn't as good as the players ahead of him that has kept his chances and appearances to a minimum. Lots of maybe's and all speculation I know and we'll probably never know the truth of what exactly has gone on.
