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Sarr, Udogie and Bentancur all cost below £20m, so we could’ve signed them playing at WHL.

As for others, good players but again I highlight that from a calibre perspective none are better than what we’ve signed at WHL.

For instance:
Jan and Toby > Van de Ven and Romero
Eriksen and van de Vaart > Maddison
Lamela = Kulusevski

In fact all of those could’ve likely been signed at WHL, as £40m would’ve likely been our budget for a big money signing. Ndombele and Richarlison are likely the only two post-WHL we wouldn’t have been able to afford.
But that's cherry picking....you have picked the very best bargains in our history and somehow concluded that if we had much less money we would somehow sign better players on average. That can't be true.
 
But that's cherry picking....you have picked the very best bargains in our history and somehow comcluded that if we had much less money we would somehow sign better players on average. That can't be true.

No I’m pointing out, as I said in my original post, we’ve yet to sign one single player that is above the calibre of what we could sign at WHL.

The club (Levy) - not me - said the new stadium would be a game changer and help deliver on field success. So what’s game changing and where’s the success if we’re signing players that are of equal or lesser calibre than what we had at WHL?
 
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Conte was quoted at the time as having specifically been involved in recruiting Richarlison...
And which signings have been made because someone in an executive office thought it was a good idea? Most of our mistakes seem to be the coaches choices.

And yet he literally never played him, so how does that add up?

Djed Spence
Bryan Gil
Pierre Hojbjerg
Sergio Reguilon
Joe Rodon
Steven Bergwijn
Matt Doherty

£155m of club signings who haven't improved us one iota. Some have literally barely kicked a ball in years.
 
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Even if we get Johnson this could be a bigger disappointment as when I got Adidas trainers with 4 stripes for Christmas

I'm a fan of Johnson and I think he'll do very well under Ange.

I'm far less of a fan of Gallagher and less of a fan still that we are once again prioritising the wrong areas of the team.

But as I said, if I got a text from Ange saying these were his personal choices for the Kane money, I'd put up and shut up.
 
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And yet he literally never played him, so how does that add up?

Djed Spence
Bryan Gil
Pierre Hojbjerg
Sergio Reguilon
Joe Rodon
Steven Bergwijn
Matt Doherty

£155m of club signings who haven't improved us one iota. Some have literally barely kicked a ball in years.
Rodon, Gil and Spence were promising youngsters ...some of those will go wrong. You have to take the rough with the smooth...Udogie and Sarr being the opposite side of the coin. Surely Højbjerg, Doherty and Reguilon were Mourinho led. Bergwijn didn’t lose us money at all.
 
the lad’s got my full support, as with any other player.

but I’m really not sure about the reasoning behind this one.

Yeah as I’ve said, good player just not really what we needed. Unless:

1 - Ange isn’t sold on Kulu (nor Solomon already) and therefore wants a new first choice RW.

2 - Ange feels he can turn Johnson into our own version of an Mbappe with regards to a speedy CF.
 
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Rodon, Gil and Spence were promising youngsters ...some of those will go wrong. You have to take the rough with the smooth...Udogie and Sarr being the opposite side of the coin. Surely Højbjerg, Doherty and Reguilon were Mourinho led. Bergwijn didn’t lose us money at all.


That's Daniel speak.

Success isn't defined by profit margins.

Success is defined by success. And Bergwijn, as well as the others, didn't deliver it.
 
Yeah as I’ve said, good player just not really what we needed. Unless:

1 - Ange isn’t sold on Kulu (nor Solomon already) and therefore wants a new first choice RW.

2 - Ange feels he can turn Johnson into our own version of an Mbappe with regards to a speedy CF.

Re: point 1. - that wouldn’t surprise me at all. if we’re really honest, Kulu’s currently not looking like the player we first signed, and Solomon is well… Danjuma part deux?
 
Re: point 1. - that wouldn’t surprise me at all. if we’re really honest, Kulu’s currently not looking like the player we first signed, and Solomon is well… Danjuma part deux?

I still think there’s a huge baller in Kulu but his form has been iffy. No worse than Son’s mind, nowhere near as bad as Richarlison’s either.

I’ve liked what I’ve seen of Solomon but 3 mins in the league, out of the league cup already and a new expensive winger coming in, just where is the game time gonna come for him? Certainly got Danjuma vibes.
 
I still think there’s a huge baller in Kulu but his form has been iffy. No worse than Son’s mind, nowhere near as bad as Richarlison’s either.

I’ve liked what I’ve seen of Solomon but 3 mins in the league, out of the league cup already and a new expensive winger coming in, just where is the game time gonna come for him? Certainly got Danjuma vibes.

I think Kulu slows the game down naturally and while he’s excellent at beating a man while he’s on the run and with space behind, he’s not as good in tight spaces and gaining that yard of separation. He needs to improve on that if he wants to stay first choice. I think Johnson is supposed to give us a flexible forward who can play across the 3 positions but who, when playing out wide, is perhaps is a little better 1v1 while still being excellent in transition.

Ange said in his presser today that he only wants signings that he and the scouts agree on. Whether that’s what’s actually happening or not we obviously don’t know.

On Solomon it doesn’t really matter. He’s a free signing and I doubt on a big wage. If the worst comes to the worst we should just pocket a small fee in a year or two and move on.
 
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Yep.

Chelsea have now spent over £1bn in less than 13 months.

But we still have a homelessness crisis in most major western cities.

Go figure.
It's very reminicent of the Roman games and the irony is that a man called Roman kick started this crazy spending.
 
I think Kulu slows the game down naturally and while he’s excellent at beating a man while he’s on the run and with space behind, he’s not as good in tight spaces and gaining that yard of separation. He needs to improve on that if he wants to stay first choice. I think Johnson is supposed to give us a flexible forward who can play across the 3 positions but who, when playing out wide, is perhaps is a little better 1v1 while still being excellent in transition.

Ange said in his presser today that he only wants signings that he and the scouts agree on. Whether that’s what’s actually happening or not we obviously don’t know.

On Solomon it doesn’t really matter. He’s a free signing and I doubt on a big wage. If the worst comes to the worst we should just pocket a small fee in a year or two and move on.

Largely agree on Kulu.

On Solomon I think it matters in a sense that we’d arguably be wasting a squad spot on someone who is now potentially going to play very little when there are areas in the team in desperate need of quality/ depth that we’re seemingly neglecting. And considering how terrible we’ve been at selling players, I’m not even sure we can just brush off the whole “we’ll sell him next summer if it don’t work out”.
 
If only there was some way of knowing Ange actually wants these players...

You don't. Same for Conte, Or for < Insert Spurs manager here > ...

So methinks the saying :

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,
then speak and remove all doubt

will see you through,.
 
Largely agree on Kulu.

On Solomon I think it matters in a sense that we’d arguably be wasting a squad spot on someone who is now potentially going to play very little when there are areas in the team in desperate need of quality/ depth that we’re seemingly neglecting. And considering how terrible we’ve been at selling players, I’m not even sure we can just brush off the whole “we’ll sell him next summer if it don’t work out”.

Oh yeah I mean in theory we could sell him…this is Spurs though <laugh>

I think the big hold up is CB departures tbh. We don’t want 3 of the 5 senior CBs we have at the club, which is pretty desperate. I don’t think we’d be signing a 6th without a second thought if Solomon or Perisic or Hojbjerg weren’t at the club.
 
That's Daniel speak.

Success isn't defined by profit margins.

Success is defined by success. And Bergwijn, as well as the others, didn't deliver it.

Bergwijn was an attempt to achieve success, failed,
and whose net cost to the club was zero.

If only he was the rule and not the exception. :(