Well of course he believes his player. Similar to how Liverpool are defending Suarez.
Suarez Charged
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Well of course he believes his player. Similar to how Liverpool are defending Suarez.
leaving aside what word was or was not used, one thing about this issue that really bugs me is Evra's claim that it was used "at least 10 times". He made that statement to canal+ so it's not speculation.
Now the first time Suarez said the word, it would not be unusual for Evra to think "did he say what I think he said?" The second time or by the latest the third time he would have assured himself. After that a player would have made some comment - even if not a formal complaint - to the refereee. After 10 times then he would have been clearly demonstrating his distress to the referee. However, Evra chose to make no comment to the official until after the match. This just does not stack up.
Now the first time Suarez said the word, it would not be unusual for Evra to think "did he say what I think he said?" The second time or by the latest the third time he would have assured himself. After that a player would have made some comment - even if not a formal complaint - to the refereee. After 10 times then he would have been clearly demonstrating his distress to the referee. However, Evra chose to make no comment to the official until after the match. This just does not stack up.
I suppose Finnan was guilty and the chelsea ground staff - Oh no, wait - They found Evra to have been lying! It has also been stated that Evra#s own team mates were surprised at his Claims as they weren't aware of any 'incident' So what do we believe, A guy who has claimed 'racial abuse' twice before or a guy who pleads vehemently he is innocent? Tough one but I know which side I'd take.
Isn't it all a case of boy who cried wolf?!
I may be wrong hear but I'm sure that Evra mentioned it to the referee and it was made aware of what happened before any tv interview. Again, I'm not sure of that but I have a feeling that this is the case.
i watched the words come from fergies mouth on sky sports news - how can you still say that fergie has said nothing
Bollocks. In Evra's case he has to live and work with these people. How would they know if he's offended or not? How do you know he doesn't want to be seen to rock any boats?
South American term? The roots of South Americans' language is either Spanish or Portugese. Now let me see, who did united have playing for them who was Portugese again? Failing that, are you saying they're using the English term instead?
The only source? Suarez? The accused? He who has been forced to make a defence, you mean? There's a surprise. No, I wouldn't expect any united player to come out and clarify what he said. No, sir. Fat bleedin' chance, 'n all!
Come on Lucaaas , surely you don't believe these 'unnamed sources' are really sources close to the club ? That's not just for United for any club ?
These sources are newspaper talk for 'I believe to sell papers' has told me..........
Just listened to an interview with Dalglish who had to tell a reporter to clean the wax out of his ears as he kept asking Dalglish about the Suarez case even after Dalglish stated clearly that he was not going to add anything to the club statement that had been made
The first part is irrelevant.
The second part is pure gibberish, no idea what your aiming for or how its relevant. Care to translate it to English?
And I don't see how most people involved respecting the FA's investigation and not releasing any statements/proof indicates there isn't any. Only one side has been running its mouth off to the media and attempting to portray their player as the victim and undermine the fairness of the investigation.
I don't think that Evra did make any representation to the Referee during the match. If he had done so then there would be no reason for him to visit the referee with Ferguson after the match. I certainly do not remeber him having any form of prolonged converstaion during the match or even indicating that it was continuing.
I will accept that he did do his interview after visiting the referee.
Fergie spoke about it on Sky Sports News - I suppose you will say it was a fergie lookalike or that there was a bit of miming going on
You've lost the plot lad,
Theres been links posted to show Utd/Fergie has been giving his opinion on the matter and Dalglish was on SSN today telling journalists that he had no comment to make regarding the case.
What part dont you understand?
The only person running their mouth off is you. The only statement made by Dalgliesh or Liverpool is to request that the matter is brought to a head as quickly as possible.
As for anything that Suarez may have said in Uruguay then it has to be remebered that the FA ruling has no power over there.
I'm taking this from the BBC site after the accusations first came to light and that the referee was made aware "after the fixture". This doesn't necessarily mean straight after the match either.
And regarding SAF's comments about it, I don't think he was talking about the case directly, he reiterated that it's in the FA's hands. Not sure where you lot are going with that to be honest? And even when he said I'm surprised this sort of thing is happening now, I think he was just talking about racial abuse or even the hint of it. I'm struggling to think of many as high profile cases for many a year before the two this season.
I remember SAF saying the club was behind evra or something like that before the FA asked both clubs to keep it in private.
Since then every three or 4 days someone from liverpool has their say in the media about how Suarez is innocent, or they want Evra punished if its baseless, or calling for a swift resolution, or talking to Uruguayan media.....
What part of united arn't saying anything because they've been asked to respect the investigation, while liverpool wont shut up about it don't you understand?
except we all know the fa don't "charge" anyone then find them not guilty as it were. I've never ever in 25 years of football support hear dof someone being charged and then aquited by the FA.
Anyone else have an example?
the FA hearings are rubber stamps on charges.
Anyone else have an example?
the FA hearings are rubber stamps on charges.
The BBC never reported his whole statement at the time,multiple other media outlets did though.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/30/manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...-united-boss-sir-alex-ferguson-shocked-to-see
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/new...-in-charge-at-Old-Trafford-article823585.html
Etc Etc
If your not sure where we're going study the part of his statement in which he has no doubt that Suarez said whatever Evra claimed he did and he said if Evra said it happened it did happen.
Therefore he was 'talking about the case directly'.
Honestly lads (and bird), aren't you ****ing bored with this yet? You will NOT resolve it on here.
I'm not sure about the point that you are trying to make. I said that it was highly unlikely that Evra would wait until after the fixture to tell him about any abuse that had happened at least 10 times. After all the same player would make sure that the referee knew that he had been fouled by the same player on more than 1 occassion.
As for Ferguson's comments, he did say that there were lots of things that he could say before he mentioned that he was under an embargo.
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