as far as I can see this whole used by his team mates is bollocks - it was his nickname when we played for a club in Italy around 10 years ago. As far as I'm aware the United players just refer to him as Pat.
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as far as I can see this whole used by his team mates is bollocks - it was his nickname when we played for a club in Italy around 10 years ago. As far as I'm aware the United players just refer to him as Pat.
What's that supposed to mean? Whatever context it's used in, it's still derogatory by Evra's definition.
Are you old enough to remember two comedies called On The Buses and Love Thy Neighbour? In On The Buses they had a black driver whose nickname was Chalky. In Love Thy Neighbour, the black neighbour called the white neighbour 'Honky' and the white neighbour called him 'Sambo'. Both derogatory. That programme would never be allowed on air now; and you'd never have a black character called 'Chalky'. Jim Davidson's 'mate' 'Chalky', jokes like that are deemed racist whatever context they're used in.
Sorry, but if Evra is forced to admit that Suarez called him by his well-known nickname either the entire united team will end up in front of the beak or he'll be told well so what?
and sir alchie has been a veritable monk when asked about the allegation - he said he believes that something was said and then immediately says he would like to comment but is not allowed - if the case is thrown out should fergie be punished (given his dubious character and his repeated discussion of the case despite being instructed no to)
As far as you know. Do any of us know wtf is going on here? Not for sure. We're all going by rumour, speculation, he said, but he said, they call him, etc.
All we know is Evra accused Suarez of a racist slur AFTER the match was over. That's it. If I were conducting the FA court martial one of the first things I'd want to know is why he didn't say anything as soon as it 'happened', but I'm not so I can't.
Stephen Gerrard has been instructed by the fa to stop calling Wayne Rooney "Wazza" as apparently it is Wazzist
Exactly. None of us really know what has happened and what has been said apart from the two parties and the FA (supposedly).
I do think there was been some sort of misunderstanding due to cultural differences about terms that are acceptable - however the FA can only look on things through their own rules and not what is acceptable in other cultures etc.
I've said before I don't think ( I don't know why I just don't) that Suarez was intentially racist but if he intended it or not may not matter to the FA - I don't know.
Someone posted earlier that it possibly lies somewhere between Evra being over sensitive and Suarez unintentionally saying something offensive - I tend to agree with that
If Evra's accusation is found to be baseless should he be banned for 10 games?
He probably will be, but united will do what they're trying to do with the three-match Rooney ban - get it overturned, and the FA will roll over like they always do.
The fact that the FA have charged Suarez shows that the FA have already shown it's not baseless so that's a moot point anyway.
Suarez may not be found guilty but the charge shows there is a basis to the accusation, in fact even Suarez has confirmed it.
Gotta disagree Eric,not every player that goes before an FA committee is found guilty as charged.
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Don't have Sky Atlantic. What of it? Is it within the Love They Neighbour context? Is it American?
Ok.
So now United are responsible for getting England bans overturned ?
It's the FA who are appealling to FIFA and it's nothing to do with United.
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