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  1. THE FOOL

    THE FOOL Well-Known Member

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    Salah is in decline, its obvious to see. We might as well bite the bullet and take the cash while we can.

    As for who can develop to replace salah?

    There will be players out there just waiting for the opportunity. Nobody thought salah, mane or Bobby would turn into the players that they did.

    There's always some one else.
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Is he?

    19 league goals 12 league assists in 38 games

    Take that in a declining player for a couple years thanks.

    1 goals 1 assist from 2 games this season
     
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  3. THE FOOL

    THE FOOL Well-Known Member

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    So your happy that it will be less this season, then less again the season after while still being paid a mega wage.

    I'd rather not
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Salah has also only missed 10 league games across the previous 6 seasons (and I don’t know if those 10 were injured or just rested).

    Find me a forward as consistent in terms of availability and goals over the last couple years.
     
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  5. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Ah can you let me know what position we finish this season from your crystal ball over there as well?
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    we have seen the following

    a) Henderson OOT amd rewarded.
    b) mane declining rapidly. offered.new deal. we dodged a bullet there
    c) firmino deline and become injury prone
    .no waiting him to leave.
    d) fabinho legs collapse yet not wanted to leave.
    e) milner at geriatric age offered more deals

    see a trend?

    salah is on the decline part of his career. its patently obvious he cannot press and his pace is no longer there. if someone offers a real fee to us even if it's blood cash then we have to take it.

    we have genuinely got a few good players in now. szoboszlai will be huge for us. diaz is finally getting to show his stuff. there's a few kids there

    200mil will only buy 2 to 3 players now. but the Saudi pif scum bidding to disrupt our game with their own club cannot offer 60 or 80mil and think they can get anyone in their market.

    kane just went for 100mil euros with 12 months to go.

    a dm is 110mil.

    a 19 year old in championship is 50.

    get real.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    key term "last couple years"

    look forward not back.
     
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  8. THE FOOL

    THE FOOL Well-Known Member

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    Sorry extrapolation from data not your strong point?
     
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  9. ademuzzy

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    Ok, let’s say we sell him this window and we are looking for a player. Who do we know about that is around the 24 years old bracket that would come?
     
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  10. InBiscanWeTrust

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    ok. 19 goals 12 assists in 38 last season
    1 goals 1 assist in 2 games this season. Extrapolate the data.

    19 goals and 19 assists in 38 games this season

    that’s an improvement.
     
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  11. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    Vinicius Junior :bandit:
     
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  12. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    You can’t look forward because you can’t predict the future.

    Pre season he looked sharp and was getting goal involvements. So far this year he’s got a goal and assist already.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    not a scooby.

    who would be arsed.

    we need to go younger now for someone who's not looking to 500million off a big rich club
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Well if you can't see what's coming then you'll walk into a wall fairly soon.

    let me get you a white cane.
     
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  15. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Realistically did you ever imagine Salah would develope into the player he did?
    There could be a youngish player being wasted by the club he's at now who, with the right system/training could be just as good.
    You either trust Klopp/the transfer people or you don't.
     
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  16. Milk..

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    Salah is in a soft decline... but his current decline is better than the majority of premier league player's peak. That said, his game is partially based on speed, so he's not going to be able to keep up at his level into his sixties like Milner is... a harder decline is just around the corner- impossible to know if this year, next year, or he still has a few years left.
     
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  17. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    His figures have been boosted with penalties in the last couple of seasons, Milner took them before that
     
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  18. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Let’s not be silly though, Milners physical level didn’t drop but his match sharpness and technical ability fell off a cliff. Salahs technical abilities still there. He’s only 31 and keeps himself in brilliant shape.

    Yes he may not be quite as quick but give him a chance on goal and still our best goal scorer.

    He had a poor year last year in a bad side and got 31 goal involvements in 38 games. His decline is still better than any of our other players up top.

    If we had a really settled side, had a solid year last year and hadn’t just lost the core of our senior leadership group and whole midfield bar thisgo then yeah maybe would be a good time to got a bulk load of money to go big on a new wide player or CB.

    but given our current state, how longs left in the window, You sell him and left with no actual right winger and 4 forwards, diaz who has just come back from big injury. Nunez who hasn’t quite hit ground running yet. Jota who was out for all of last season. And gakpo who been here 6 months.

    Madness
     
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  19. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    1 pen in 17/18
    3 in 18/19
    3 in 19/20
    6 in 20/21
    5 in 21/22
    2 in 22/23

    1 miss in 17/18
    1 miss in 21/22
    2 miss in 22/23
    1 miss in 23/24


    Couple season it’s been boosted but not massively. Still got to stick them away (which he’s actually getting worse at it seems!)
     
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  20. Bumps

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    I don’t even think we need to replace his goals at this moment in time
    We need someone who is going to help stop the goals going in
    If we don’t have enough to score with Gakpo Nunez Diaz Doak Szboz Macallister then we are in a situation

    mid we get a defensive player who stops us conceding 10-15 more goals we probably only need a 10-15 goal person coming in ?

    if Salah goes other players will step up
    If not and we have banked 160mil Klopp can have another season out the CL to build with probs another 100mil next summer

    I would take 175-200mill

    I was thinking Vin Jnr too but I just can’t see him coming

    Mbappe might for one year though :bandit:
     
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