Suarez Charged

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Foredeckdave said:
What a total idiot you are. Satements have been made by both players. The FA, for their own reasons, have decided to test that evidence by bringing a charge to test that evidence.
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The FA has today charged Liverpool’s Luis Suarez following an incident that occurred during the Liverpool versus Manchester United fixture at Anfield on 15 October 2011.

It is alleged that Suarez used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Manchester United’s Patrice Evra contrary to FA rules.

It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra.

The FA will issue no further comment at this time.

There is no "test", there's not even a hearing scheduled. Suarez will "request a hearing" in an effort to try and overturn the charge. But as things stand the FA obviously think he's guilty and if he does nothing he's going to get punished for it.

Amazing how low scousers will go to defend what is a pretty scummy individual. Guess I shouldn't be, bin dippers have accepted him as one of their own.
 
Anyway, there are no bizzies involved, so Evra hasn't got one to stand on.

Having said that if the Terry allegations are proved true I bet he won't get much of a punishment.

I bet Suarez will though if he is proved guilty.

Evra had better have one hell of a case to prove that's all I can say!
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
Too true.

If Suarez did say something along those lines then Evra is being oversensitive and they need their heads knocking together.

However, if he, as alleged, called him a ****** that is different. We'll see, eh?

What staggers me is how you lot are so absolutely convinced he didn't say it. On what basis? His long and distingushed career of sporting behaviour?
If there was no case for him to answer they wouldn't have charged him, God knows they took long enough to 'investigate'.
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Totally agree except consider also that Suarez may have a colourful past but as far as I'm aware has never been accused of racism and Evra does have a history of making accusations that remain "unproven". Lets be honest if he did call him a ****** then I hope he gets hauled over the coals by his bollox but if Evra's turning something else that's vaguely insulting into a race issue then he's as bad as any racist (except maybe that Hitler fella obviously).
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
Oh wait,you used the word "black" out of context and we're all supposed to believe and understand that you did'nt mean to use the word as ridicule or in a racist manner.

:)
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I knew how that comment could be construed, hence the no pun/racism statement. It's a question of knowing the line with certain comments. Like someone said, if it's just banter and Evra has been oversensitive or Suarez ignorant then common sense is that it isn't really racism (again, my personal opinion). He might have been able to say it to Glen Johnson for example on the training field because he knows that Johnson either knows the context of the remark or the true nature of Suarez but ignorant to assume that someone else would accept the comment as just banter,

But a derogatory term just because of one's colour or appearence or beliefs or for any reason is just wrong.
 
Suarez plays for Liverpool so he must be an innocent little angel.

Evra plays for Man Utd so he must be a piece of scum.
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
Rooney?
Giggs?
Rio?
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Rooney? you mean the Granny shagger and bloke who gets away with elbowing people? (Still he's no Gerrard)
Giggs? what you mean an affair?
Rio? missing a drugs test (Nicknamed a drugs cheat by you lot).


Tell you what, as soon as you lot learn the meaning of innocent until proven guilty and stop being a bunch of hypocritical morons so I will I.

Until then imma keep referring to Suarez as "that racist" and Gerrard as "that violent thug what beats up DJ's"
 
I thought this was quite interesting taken from the bbc website.

"There were two parts of the discussion, one in Spanish, one in English. I did not insult him. It was just a way of expressing myself. I called him something his team-mates at Manchester call him, and even they were surprised by his reaction."

Now, obviously don't know how true that is but if that is the case then surely a bit of common sense will prevail?
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
I thought this was quite interesting taken from the bbc website.

"There were two parts of the discussion, one in Spanish, one in English. I did not insult him. It was just a way of expressing myself. I called him something his team-mates at Manchester call him, and even they were surprised by his reaction."

Now, obviously don't know how true that is but if that is the case then surely a bit of common sense will prevail?
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Look up the meaning of "context".
 
Ivor Biggun said:
Rooney? you mean the Granny shagger and bloke who gets away with elbowing people? (Still he's no Gerrard)
Giggs? what you mean an affair?
Rio? missing a drugs test (Nicknamed a drugs cheat by you lot).


Tell you what, as soon as you lot learn the meaning of innocent until proven guilty and stop being a bunch of hypocritical morons so I will I.

Until then imma keep referring to Suarez as "that racist" and Gerrard as "that violent thug what beats up DJ's"
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I actually meant Rio's extra marital affair that recently cost him half a million in court costs.

The rest of your drivel is daft.

Suarez has'nt been proved guilty of anything yet and Gerrard was found not guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers.

Facts!
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
Too true.

If Suarez did say something along those lines then Evra is being oversensitive and they need their heads knocking together.

However, if he, as alleged, called him a ****** that is different. We'll see, eh?

What staggers me is how you lot are so absolutely convinced he didn't say it. On what basis? His long and distingushed career of sporting behaviour?
If there was no case for him to answer they wouldn't have charged him, God knows they took long enough to 'investigate'.
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Ruffian, on what basis do you say that he did say anything RACIST? Suarez said that he made no racist remarks and therefore unless or until evidence can be brought that he did the majority of Liverpool supporters will continue to support him. Add to that the fact that Evra chose to 'go public' before an official complaint was made and his proven predeliction to become involved in racially associated actions and that support is compounded.

For their own reasons, the FA have brought a general charge and added a further allegation of a racial nature. Without being too wrapped-up in conspiricy theories it can be interprited as an attempt to ensure that some form of the charge can be found to be proven. However, with good legal represntation, the FA could find themselves tied-up in a mess of their own making. I somehow think that this whole matter will now spiral out of the control of the FA.

Given Ferguson's previous comments and Liverpool's statement then it would appear that the battle-lines are being drawn. It's going to become very messy.
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
I actually meant Rio's extra marital affair that recently cost him half a million in court costs.

The rest of your drivel is daft.

Suarez has'nt been proved guilty of anything yet and Gerrard was found not guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers.

Facts!
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Not guilty of what exactly? There's easily accessible video footage that proves Gerrard is a violent little ****bag <ok>
 
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